Tucksy!
just tru fax (2:13:10 PM): closely fought sir :-)
just tru fax (2:13:15 PM): i tipeth my hat
onetz53 (2:13:38 PM): yeah, congrats!
onetz53 (2:13:59 PM): the only one I was unsure about answering at the time was that one about Ashley's voted out day
onetz53 (2:14:03 PM): and that's the one I lost one
onetz53 (2:14:06 PM): hooray
just tru fax (2:14:25 PM): ah dont worry, i strongly doubt you'll be going anywhere
onetz53 (2:15:34 PM): I hope not
onetz53 (2:17:43 PM): so what do you think, then, Tucksy?
just tru fax (2:17:51 PM): i was about to ask you the same lol
just tru fax (2:18:14 PM): i spent most of this round thinking i had it all set to go on jury
onetz53 (2:18:47 PM): aw...I'm glad you won then
onetz53 (2:19:01 PM): but I think Jeff and Hooker have kinda pitted themselves against each other at this point
just tru fax (2:19:58 PM): hm.
just tru fax (2:20:29 PM): i had jeffrey telling me that hooker assumes he's after him
just tru fax (2:21:12 PM): brb
onetz53 (2:21:15 PM): ok
just tru fax (2:21:49 PM): im back haha
just tru fax (2:21:57 PM): sister wanted me to do a near impossible break
just tru fax (2:22:02 PM): task*
onetz53 (2:22:08 PM): what was that?
just tru fax (2:22:40 PM): wanted me to set a security code on a modem without knowing anything about it haha
onetz53 (2:22:58 PM): yeah that could make things a bit difficult
just tru fax (2:23:39 PM): but c'est la vie - cant work miracles
onetz53 (2:24:13 PM): but you're TUCKER/ROB
onetz53 (2:24:15 PM): the man with two names
just tru fax (2:24:27 PM): not by choice good sir
onetz53 (2:25:28 PM): haha I wish I could have a random playing name
onetz53 (2:25:29 PM): so lucky
just tru fax (2:26:02 PM): sandy came upto me before the game started and was like
just tru fax (2:26:11 PM): um, there cant be two robs choose a new name
just tru fax (2:26:35 PM): it was gonna be RJ, but RB had already chosen his nickname prior to me
onetz53 (2:26:46 PM): haha
onetz53 (2:26:51 PM): and those are too similar, I imagine
just tru fax (2:27:24 PM): well being similar to that below standard player would be an insult to even the worst kind of person
onetz53 (2:27:52 PM): lawlz
just tru fax (2:28:40 PM): is there nothing information wise to share? i'm at a serious question mark right now.
onetz53 (2:29:59 PM): do you want to vote me?
onetz53 (2:30:01 PM): I'd understand, Tucksy
onetz53 (2:30:08 PM): I voted you once after all
just tru fax (2:30:43 PM): Yes but your reasons for voting me were sound, I vote for actual reasons not because of a winning streak or somebody voting me
just tru fax (2:30:55 PM): But I'm not voting you, I just can't.
onetz53 (2:31:32 PM): aw...well I'd appreciate that :-)
onetz53 (2:32:07 PM): I really don't think I'd have voted you this round even if you didn't win immunity...this Hooker/Jeffrey thing seemed to be taking shape the end of last round
just tru fax (2:33:58 PM): so out of hooker and jeffrey who would you gun for
just tru fax (2:34:05 PM): though i think i've got an assumption
onetz53 (2:34:37 PM): oh yeah?
onetz53 (2:34:40 PM): and what assumption is that?
just tru fax (2:35:00 PM): well theres two paths
just tru fax (2:35:12 PM): jeffrey thinks that you'll protect hooker because of the idol
just tru fax (2:35:24 PM): but i know you told jeff you wouldn't vote for him
onetz53 (2:35:36 PM): HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT
just tru fax (2:35:46 PM): lol!
onetz53 (2:36:07 PM): haha
just tru fax (2:36:20 PM): hold off the caps lock brother!!
onetz53 (2:36:36 PM): ok, sorry if I startled you
just tru fax (2:36:55 PM): i've got a tonne of knowledge game wise
just tru fax (2:37:21 PM): few black spots here and there though
onetz53 (2:37:24 PM): please don't tell me you guys spell 'ton' with all those added letters
just tru fax (2:37:31 PM): unfortunately we do :-)
onetz53 (2:37:54 PM): amazing
just tru fax (2:38:36 PM): totes
onetz53 (2:39:19 PM): well I gave Hooker the idol last round because he was basically the only one to ask for it
onetz53 (2:39:21 PM): haha
onetz53 (2:39:27 PM): I had immunity so I figured I'd do something with it
onetz53 (2:39:39 PM): and I never knew where Jordan stood in this game, unfortunately
just tru fax (2:40:47 PM): everybody was under the assumption you'd protect morgan. ballsy move not doing so that could've backfired
onetz53 (2:41:11 PM): yeah...I'd have felt awful if you guys had voted Morgan instead of Hooker
onetz53 (2:41:26 PM): I was hoping you'd think I wasn't ballsy enough though
onetz53 (2:41:27 PM): haha
just tru fax (2:41:53 PM): i was writing in my journal going "yep, predic round"
just tru fax (2:41:59 PM): then that happened and went =-O WOW
onetz53 (2:43:21 PM): yeah haha I was thinking it'd be quite the predic round as well...that was such a late-inning occurence though...didn't get home from work till an hour before votes were due
onetz53 (2:43:27 PM): and then that was thrown in my lap
onetz53 (2:43:35 PM): had to make a gut decision and run with it
just tru fax (2:44:14 PM): it should be mentioned at finale yo :-D
just tru fax (2:44:18 PM): best what the fuck moment
onetz53 (2:44:49 PM): yay
onetz53 (2:45:00 PM): Skype reunion show hopefully <333
just tru fax (2:45:07 PM): that'll be cool
just tru fax (2:45:16 PM): and anyway, congratulations mr zuniga <3
just tru fax (2:45:28 PM): you're going to surpass your china placing
onetz53 (2:45:47 PM): *crosses fingers*
just tru fax (2:45:59 PM): you'll be fine
onetz53 (2:46:05 PM): I thought for sure I was making final 4 in china
onetz53 (2:46:08 PM): and I was quite surprised
onetz53 (2:46:10 PM): so who knows
just tru fax (2:46:32 PM): i bet my jury vote that you wont get one against you
onetz53 (2:47:15 PM): well at least there are no more idols
just tru fax (2:47:59 PM): imagine what it would've been like if it ran upto f4
onetz53 (2:48:07 PM): zomg, craziness
onetz53 (2:48:23 PM): brb, laundry
just tru fax (2:48:27 PM): hot
onetz53 (2:53:27 PM): I've returned
just tru fax (2:53:51 PM): Just checking my PMs
onetz53 (2:54:07 PM): anything juicy?
just tru fax (2:54:25 PM): Haha! No way!
onetz53 (2:54:56 PM): aw well
just tru fax (2:55:00 PM): No I mean
just tru fax (2:55:03 PM): no way as in =-O
onetz53 (2:55:23 PM): hahaha
just tru fax (2:55:41 PM): OK before I say it, I'm gonna ask you something
just tru fax (2:56:05 PM): Do you have a Final Three in your head?
onetz53 (2:56:30 PM): I do
just tru fax (2:56:35 PM): What're they
onetz53 (2:56:48 PM): that's a secret
onetz53 (2:56:49 PM): :-)
just tru fax (2:56:54 PM): Hooker you and Morgan?
onetz53 (2:57:19 PM): I actually have multiple scenarios in my head depending on who wins immunity
onetz53 (2:57:34 PM): like if you win it again next round, I have no problem sitting beside you at the end
just tru fax (2:57:56 PM): Ahh, because what I've just read says otherwise is all.
onetz53 (2:58:07 PM): otherwise?
just tru fax (2:58:33 PM): That you've already made a deal.
onetz53 (2:59:01 PM): did you have a final 3 in your head a round or two ago when you were taking out Erin and Stephen?
just tru fax (2:59:41 PM): Nope. I got mentioned in a few though by others.
onetz53 (3:00:33 PM): probably because you became despicable in the eyes of some other heroes / now jurors
onetz53 (3:00:40 PM): you'll always be good ole Tucksy to me though
just tru fax (3:01:07 PM): I dont see how, all the Heroes/Villains crap stopped after the switch
just tru fax (3:01:16 PM): Stephen wanted me and Jordan with him at Finals
onetz53 (3:01:48 PM): all heroes
onetz53 (3:02:03 PM): from my perspective it was still heroes vs villains until the Erin vote
just tru fax (3:02:27 PM): Then you would've had Bud at merger lol
onetz53 (3:03:56 PM): yeah but coming into the merge there were 7 heroes compared to just 4 villains...and regardless of what had happened since the switch, I was all for heroes to the end as were most of the other heroes
just tru fax (3:05:11 PM): there wasn't much talk about what would happen after the six though
just tru fax (3:05:26 PM): and if they were, i wasn't involved.
onetz53 (3:05:47 PM): why would we jump ahead and alienate other heroes though?
onetz53 (3:06:13 PM): like, I was good getting 7th if it meant one of us winning...but alas
just tru fax (3:07:16 PM): well that might've been okay for you, but not for me. i cant be resigned to a certain position then be like "oh well"
just tru fax (3:07:29 PM): not everybody would think the same as you though
onetz53 (3:07:54 PM): yeah and I understand the game is different for everyone...what might be fine with me may not be so with you
onetz53 (3:08:03 PM): I've been all about the ride though and it's been a blast
just tru fax (3:09:18 PM): oh definitely, its just interesting thats all that the majority of the heroes didn't want to budge and try to build bridges then when it gets down to the wire they'll go running to the people they once tried voting
just tru fax (3:10:14 PM): and suddenly is taboo
onetz53 (3:11:08 PM): well obviously the hero-block was broken down with Erin/Stephen leaving
just tru fax (3:11:40 PM): and that was only because nobody was talking about the aftermath of the core six
onetz53 (3:12:11 PM): didn't you say Stephen wanted f3 with you and Jordan though?
just tru fax (3:12:15 PM): but with the whole heroes/villains thing, some people have really taken it to the level of discrimination
just tru fax (3:12:30 PM): Stephen wanted F3 with me and Jordan
onetz53 (3:12:44 PM): right...so how is that not looking past the core six heroes?
just tru fax (3:12:52 PM): Still no guarantee
onetz53 (3:13:06 PM): guarantee?
just tru fax (3:13:18 PM): 3/6 is only 1/2 the group
onetz53 (3:13:37 PM): so if he'd thrown a fourth name in there, you'd have stayed with the heroes?
just tru fax (3:14:06 PM): if there was a guarantee, definitely.
onetz53 (3:14:23 PM): I see
just tru fax (3:14:48 PM): and yeah, its "unheroic" but those titles are just reflections of what we were
onetz53 (3:16:31 PM): I didn't care so much about the actual title as more simply the group of people we were together
onetz53 (3:16:38 PM): most fun I've ever had in a game, being on that Hero tribe
onetz53 (3:16:45 PM): wanted it to last to the end
onetz53 (3:16:47 PM): but alas
just tru fax (3:16:58 PM): definitely, the heroes tribe is by far the strongest group performance wise
just tru fax (3:18:23 PM): but we all knew it'd come to an end
onetz53 (3:18:31 PM): I didn't
just tru fax (3:18:43 PM): there cant be 7 sole survivors in one game though
onetz53 (3:18:58 PM): well yeah, but like I said my mindset was final 7 of heroes = victory
just tru fax (3:19:33 PM): The Heroes still outnumber Villains, you know for fact that at least 2 Heroes will occupy the finals
onetz53 (3:20:13 PM): mayhaps
just tru fax (3:20:37 PM): do you see yourself voting morgan? i heavily doubt it
just tru fax (3:21:12 PM): i'm not going to vote you
onetz53 (3:22:14 PM): I guess I don't see why I would have any reason to vote Morgan when she's stayed true to the heroes this entire game
just tru fax (3:23:12 PM): you said yourself the lines of heroes and villains are blurred
onetz53 (3:23:31 PM): indeed they are
just tru fax (3:23:42 PM): so how confident are you in that statement?
onetz53 (3:23:52 PM): which statement?
just tru fax (3:24:01 PM): about morgan staying true to heroes
just tru fax (3:24:19 PM): and thats not trying to target her
onetz53 (3:24:31 PM): well, to the heroes that now reside on the jury at least
onetz53 (3:24:42 PM): since it became a new game with Erin's vote-out
just tru fax (3:24:55 PM): well thats the worst case of discrimination i'll witness if thats true
onetz53 (3:25:08 PM): what do you mean?
just tru fax (3:25:35 PM): in fvf there was no line between fans/favs
onetz53 (3:26:44 PM): I don't see it as two polarizing sides...I just see it as there being two tribes, one tribe decimating the other pre-merge, and simply wanting to stick together post-merge
onetz53 (3:26:46 PM): that's all
onetz53 (3:26:50 PM): no "racism" or anything
onetz53 (3:26:51 PM): it's the game
onetz53 (3:26:57 PM): heroes outplayed the villains
onetz53 (3:26:58 PM): done
just tru fax (3:27:02 PM): if the jury vote based on titles given to us which it might as well be
just tru fax (3:27:18 PM): and thats pretty much the assumption after supernanny left
just tru fax (3:27:48 PM): how dare heroes vote one another!?
onetz53 (3:28:36 PM): but I genuinely loved each person on that tribe...why would I randomly vote out Erin over someone like RB or Juice that I'd never talked to to that point?
just tru fax (3:29:18 PM): argh no thats not what i meant
just tru fax (3:29:52 PM): it just seems like after erin was voted out and then two heroes followed suit (one by me, one by you) then it's like "if you're voting heroes and you're a hero then you will not get my vote"
onetz53 (3:30:45 PM): well, it works like that normally, doesn't it? if it's just two normal tribes and then one tribe starts eating itself apart
onetz53 (3:30:51 PM): of course there are gonna be hurt feelings come jury-time
just tru fax (3:31:17 PM): villains started eating themselves round one to be fair lol
just tru fax (3:31:50 PM): but if the jury will base their decisions on "you're a hero who voted a hero so gtfo" then thats not a good finale
onetz53 (3:34:10 PM): that's kind of like a Russell attitude though, isn't it? the jury will vote how the jury will vote, and that's how it works...reaons for voting may be different with any given season, but we had this game and these experiences together, so however they feel like voting is their perogative
just tru fax (3:34:45 PM): Russell thinks that alienation and bullying is a legit way to win a game
onetz53 (3:35:01 PM): yeah I'm not comparing you to him in that sense
onetz53 (3:35:15 PM): just that he thinks the jury should vote a certain way when they can vote however they please
just tru fax (3:35:38 PM): i'm not getting myself across properly lol
just tru fax (3:35:48 PM): okay, imagine that you're a villain
just tru fax (3:36:08 PM): you get to the end, and the jury is packed with heroes who dont like you because you're a villain
just tru fax (3:36:29 PM): and they rip into you because of that one fact, is that not unfair
just tru fax (3:37:25 PM): they dont mention strategy, social etc.
onetz53 (3:37:46 PM): I see what you're saying...in that scenario all i could do would be to give my case for why I should win...and if they don't buy it or acknowledge it, it's their right
onetz53 (3:38:04 PM): I don't like talking "fair" in Survivor
just tru fax (3:38:11 PM): it's pretty narrow minded though, and discriminative
just tru fax (3:38:27 PM): "you wont get my vote because you were on the other team. thats that"
onetz53 (3:39:13 PM): well see that's the 'outplay' aspect...the heroes outplayed the villains pre-merge and won the right to more jury spots
onetz53 (3:39:16 PM): just how it played out
just tru fax (3:39:59 PM): so thats justifying not voting for somebody because they were on a weaker side?
onetz53 (3:40:55 PM): haha, I'm not gonna justify anyone's jury vote...
onetz53 (3:41:01 PM): it's theirs to make :-)
just tru fax (3:41:02 PM): dont get me wrong, i'd love to see a hero win but not like that
onetz53 (3:41:21 PM): right, I see what you're saying
just tru fax (3:41:28 PM): sorry, i love debates <3
onetz53 (3:42:00 PM): haha I've enjoyed talking with you about such things
onetz53 (3:42:08 PM): it's sorta been rolling around in my head lately too
just tru fax (3:42:24 PM): i totally get what you're saying thouguh
just tru fax (3:42:49 PM): it's one of the many reasons why i think you'll win
onetz53 (3:43:22 PM): and yet you're sure you don't want to vote me out then?
just tru fax (3:43:43 PM): nope. i want a challenge, not a coattail rider.
onetz53 (3:44:17 PM): so you want to vote Hooker or Morgan then
just tru fax (3:44:51 PM): but again, that opens up who has done the least to deserve that
onetz53 (3:45:08 PM): right
just tru fax (3:45:45 PM): so i'm still up in the air
just tru fax (3:46:28 PM): i wont try to throw my weight around because i'm not eligible to be voted, that's not cool.
onetz53 (3:47:28 PM): oh Tucksy...so honorable <3
just tru fax (3:47:36 PM): haha
just tru fax (3:48:07 PM): but i'll leave it at that. i'm gonna be around for most of the night, hit me up with anything. it'll be appreciated.
onetz53 (3:48:27 PM): sho thing
onetz53 (3:48:37 PM): I'll be headed out in a bit but will be back later
just tru fax (3:48:42 PM): take it easy
onetz53 (3:48:45 PM): peace
... msg me when your back (I got to go grab lunch now too, hopefully we don;t miss each other!)