Round 14.

[Morgan]

Erin went home... I'm extremely sad, I am going to miss her a lot. I'm the last girl standing which was my original objective comming into the game, once again I did what I told myself I was going to when the game started. But I didn't want Erin to go this early, and if there is -actually- a boys alliance I am going to go next. I need to really do something this round, even in the video Sandy seemed to hint that I really need to proove myself...

The thing is, who to trust? Jeffrey is with Hooker and Tucker. Then Tom is with Stephen and I'm suposed to be with them. Is Jordan with them? I need to talk to Jordan and see exactly where he stands. I wonder, if Jordan IS in fact with Tom and Stephen, could I shape up the next round to be a vote between Jeffrey and Jordan? Both of them are the ones from each side that I trust the least so if the vote was between them, it will be very convenient. The numbers are extremely important right now and where I place myself will affect what happens to me at the end.

Do I even have a chance to win? I don't know, maybe I don't, but that doesn't mean I won't give it a try!

[Morgan]

I was cleaning and I thought of something, I need to talk to Hooker. I want him and me to be the Final 2, why? Because I feel I stand the best chance against him if we both face the jury, I feel that against everyone else I will have no chance, but Hooker... that's a different story. So my plan is to talk everyone into voting for Jeffrey, then tell Hooker to tell Jeffrey to use his idol to idol out Jordan -or maybe Stephen or Tom- and then move from there to make sure me and Hooker can end in the finals.

I know a lot of people are going to be upset with me if I backstab them, but I want to win and I don't want to "follow a sheep off a cliff" and they all seem to have this idea of me... I just need to be smooth with everything that I'm about to do because the jury is still going to have a vote. You know what some people say, the ending is the most important part of any story.

[Morgan]

I sent this to Hooker:


Hi Hooker, I know I haven't been very honest to you in this game, and I appologize for that. The truth is, I always wanted to work with you and I felt horrible about lying to you and especially what me and Erin did last round because I like you a lot as a person and I always considered you to be a good asset for me in the end game. I hope you understand that I did it because of my relationship with Erin and because I wanted to go to the end with her and I couldn't let her go, also she was the only girl and I was scared of all the boys comming against me, which is still a possibility.

Regardless, today I was cleaning and I thought that I would like to go to the Final 2 with you, in all honesty I think that might be the only shot either of us have at winning the game since we were tagged the most obvlivious, the least deserving and the two who will follow a sheep off a cliff. It will be the biggest upset in the game, I know I haven't done anything for you tot rust me, but I'm being sincere right now. It will not benefit me at all to come to you telling you this if it wasn't serious because if Tom/Stephen/Jordan find out, I could easily be voted out.

Let me know your thoughts,
Morgan <3.


Hooker answered:
first, I totally understand. You were only doing what you had to at the time. I knew you were never going to simply flip to me or anything, it didn't make sense. But you have still been more honest with me than most. I wish it didn't have to be Erin either, but the self vote made it a limited choice (had to be her or Jordan, and she was easier to get the votes against). Her promising to take me to the 4 then trying to vote me out if I "tyson'd" (Stupidly changed my vote getting myself voted out - lol) makes me feel not quite as bad though. lol, but she was one of my favorite people to talk to in the game. (All that stuff I used to say in tribal about connecting with people, but it not meaning they won't vote for you was mostly about her and you too...)

Now on to the strategy part. I agree. You can probably tell I have wanted us to have some kind of end game plan together for rounds now. It just didn't make sense to talk about it before, because I knew you couldn't accept it yet. But it's why I have tried to tell you what I am doing every round, I wanted to make sure things stayed open if we both made it through a few more.

I don't think either of us are really targets all of a sudden (You never were - but the target may be coming off me now that I dodged it so many times, and besides I am "The least likely to win the game" - lol) I would think one of the "threat guys" will be going next round. I think we can probably get through to 5 now without much trouble. I will tell you if I hear your name and try and change anything if it happens, you let me know if anyone talks about turning it back on me yet again, and it shouldn't be too hard to get there... I have been expecting to turn back into the target at that point again though.

And 1 more thing - I think it is going to be a final 3... It may be that at the very least 1 of those other guys will have to be there. I am not really sure who is the least of the threats among them...


I replied:
I'm glad you understand and I'm glad we are on the same page, I will do the same for you. And if push comes to shove maybe you can get the idol from Jeffrey and we could idol out some people, my connection with Tom/Stephen will help us know exactly what is going on until we need to act and your connection with Tucker/Jeffrey will do the same. I think right now out best thing will be to take out Jordan since I don't feel either of us have a real connection with him that could help us like the other connections in the game.

As for who to take to the Final 3... I have no idea, I feel any of them might be viewed as better players than us unless we manage to take full control and make it seem like we just dragged them there. Then again, that's what happened in the real season of Heroes VS Villains, so it's better to never be too confident about anything. Definitively not Jeffrey though, I think he is by far the biggest threat and maybe Tom. Some people might hold a grudge against Tucker but he is playing very strategically... so I'm not sure, we need to discuss this further a lot too. I'll try to be online tonight so we can <3.

[Morgan]

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Stephen: [Offline IM sent 1d and 20h ago] talk to you soon!
Stephen: morgan!!!
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avarim: Stephen! Hi!
Stephen: ready to win this immunity?!?!?!
avarim: I am! I can't stay until very late though, previous engagement but I am hoping everyone shows up and it can go by fast.
Stephen: yeah i hope so as well!
Stephen: i wanted to give you a quick update on what ive been hearing
Stephen: so im glad i caught you before we start!
avarim: Sure, what's going on?
Stephen: first, i can almost guarantee that you have nothing to worry about. me and tom seem to be the next targets of jeffrey and that side.
avarim: Awe, no!
Stephen: but... we still have the chance of getting jordan with us to make it 4 strong
avarim: Yes, that makes sense.
Stephen: unfortunately, it seems like jordan is still deciding what he's gonna do. i can tell he's worried about jeffrey's idol, and teaming up over there would make him safe... but, if the 4 of us stick together, i know we can get through this!
Stephen: :-(
Stephen: we just need to make sure jordan doesn't quite know how close i am to you/tom. we wouldn't want him thinking he;s just the 4th of the team.
avarim: I was thinking of a way to get rid of Jeffrey for once and all.
Stephen: ME TOO
avarim: Yes, of course.
Stephen: and that's why i think if jordan can be an actor this round and make them think they have him
Stephen: and if the 4 of us can vote jeffrey
avarim: I was thinking, if we tell him up front he needs to play his idol, he might not, reverse psychology.
Stephen: he's done!
Stephen: yes, or that!
avarim: That makes more sense than mine LOL.
Stephen: no no no but anything can work!
Stephen: kinda like how when juice left, they expected me/jordan to be voting out erin
Stephen: we can try the same thing, either they'd think me/jordan are voting tom, or just that jordan is voting me off (after lying to hooker so much, im sure they wouldn't believe me haha)
Stephen: but we HAVE to make sure you, me, tom, or jordan wins immunity because if one of the other 3 get it... it's way higher chance of the idol coming into play
Stephen: :-\
avarim: That makes a lot of sense, I just want us to vote out Jeffrey over Hooker, even if it might be risky, we need that idol OUT.
Stephen: yep!
Stephen: next round will be even harder to get him out than this one
Stephen: and it's sort of do or die at this point... could be our last chance to make the big move!
avarim: Next round is probably the last round he can play it too.
avarim: So if he gets there, he WILL play it.
Stephen: yeah i heard it expires AFTER the final 6 TC
avarim: As in the real show, makes sense.
Stephen: and if i were him, i feel like i'd want to save it till the last time
Stephen: so it's just a sure thing that i'm safe
avarim: I will too.
Stephen: but yeah, time to be super nice to jordan :-P
avarim: We could always make it seem like we have an idol too. Like the plan to save Jordan before, that we never did.
Stephen: i've always gotten along well with jordan
Stephen: and ohhhh to stir it up, yeah... that would make it interesting too
avarim: I get along with him, but I don't feel like he likes me all that much honestly. It's a little harder to talk to him.
Stephen: i feel like i could see them targetting tom next since me/erin are "split up" now, and i may not be as much of a problem now... but you never know. jeffrey still seems mad at me after the round when juice was blindsided.
Stephen: yeah, i've heard a lot of ppl say that. but that just may be how jordan is. he's been telling me stuff before tucker this entire game, so i do think he'd lean towards working with me over tucker.
avarim: I think the next target may be Tom. I don't think they will target me anytime soon since I'm 'the least deserving' and I haven't really showed that I can win challenges either.
Stephen: i just would love for 4 heroes to make the final 4... we have had the majority and it would be so sad if we lose it.
Stephen: well if jordan does decide to vote tom off with the other guys, then me/you will have to pull some magic after that
Stephen: i can't stand the thought of losing tom! especially back to back with erin.
avarim: Yeah me either, I'd much rather have them target Jordan, honestly.
Stephen: and it would be perfect because if they went for jordan, we'd know he was with us
avarim: I'm trying to think of a way in which we can make it be Jordan against Jeffrey simply because I don't want you or Tom to leave.
Stephen: it would be his only choice
avarim: Do you think, if I pretend that I'm going to their side and suggest Jordan, they will go for it?
avarim: I can say I'm extremely upset about you guys saying I don't deserve my spot.
Stephen: it could work!!! yes. the only thing is, what if they tell jordan you said that, and he doesn't want to work with us anymore...
Stephen: or, if you tell jordan beforehand that you're gonna say it... and then if they act like they're fine seeing jordan leave, it could make jordan want to work with us over them even more!
Stephen: lol sorry, i feel like i'm talking a LOT
Stephen: i'm just sooo nervous!
avarim: It's fine honey, we are just trying to figure this out.
Stephen: and i know we will!
avarim: I am just wondering if telling Jordan is better or not.
Stephen: wanna see what tom thinks?
avarim: Yes.
avarim: Tom hasn't been talking to me too much.
Stephen: really?!
avarim: Yeah, he is very... quiet lately.
Stephen: i've been so excited because i'm FINALLY seeing you online more lately! :-)
avarim: I am trying really hard to be online more and just put my all into the game, like I want to.
Stephen: i know you are doing your best
Stephen: and you are doing an AMAZING job!
avarim: Thank you, I appreciate it <3.
avarim: I don't think I can win though LOL.
Stephen: you could!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
avarim: Thanks <3.
avarim: I don't want to block either of you two, I want one of you to win <3.
Stephen: aw thanks!
Stephen: i dont even care if i end up sacrificing myself but i will NOT let hooker win!
avarim: You are too heroic <3.
Stephen: <3
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[Morgan]

This is from last night, but since the forum wasn't working I saved them for posting them this morning:

avarim: Hi honey!
avarim: Hello?
Hooker: Hey!!
avarim: How are you?
Hooker: not bad - just watching the Biggest Loser finale

Hooker: U?
avarim: I'm fine, just waiting for the challenge.
Hooker: Yea, there is no mention of a time limit though - whathappens if someone just doesn;t make a move?

Hooker: it seems like we need all 7 people to be here and stay till it's done
avarim: I won't be able to stay all the time, I have a previous engagement tonight. But I will stay for as long as I can.
Hooker: exactly? what happens then? We just stop and wait till tomorrow I guess?
avarim: I guess?
Hooker: whatever - I'm sure it can't take that long anyway even if we have to do that - 2, 3 days tops
avarim: I hope so.

avarim: By the way, about what we had been talking, are we still in the same page?
Hooker: Yea. for sure . totally honestly I don;t know what I can guarantee right now. After so many crazy rounds, I am sceptical of commiting to anything to quickly. But I definately want you to stay around and I will work towards that. I foresee that we might disagree on who should go this time though (> then agin maybe not)

Hooker: But really who knows who will get immunity so actual tragets are only speculation anyway. I definately wany us to continue forward no matter who wins immunity
avarim: Yes, I really do want this to work and I'm already making sure you won't be this rounds target. I want to go to the finals with you though, I think it's in both of our best interest.
Hooker: I do definately agree with that. I still worry about alot of the people left though. Obviously Tom heads up that list
avarim: I don't think Tom has that much chance of winning, unlike Jordan, he can win all the challenges left so I feel we need to get rid of him first chance we have.
Hooker: lol, see Jordan is very low on the list of people who worry me right now.
avarim: Really?

avarim: He worries me the most, because of the information flow.

avarim: Stephen and Tom tell me EVERYTHING, which is good for us.

avarim: Jordan is too misterious.

avarim: Jeffrey and Tucker trust you.
Hooker: But I have a hard time beliving that I can last without at least 1 of them gone.

Hooker: meaning Tom and Stephen - they have both been against me for awhile now - old habits die hard

Hooker: Jordan at least hasn;t tried to vote me out yet
avarim: Hasn't he?
Hooker: as far as I am aware he has never put my name down. He has lied to me about what is going on but he never voted for me (I could be wrong, I don;t really know who voted who, but I thought I had most of them pegged)
avarim: Do you think you can get Jeffrey to give you the idol?
Hooker: NO clue - he did it once, but I was shocked
avarim: I think we all voted for you at some point hon.

avarim: You should get it.
Hooker: I don;t think so - Jodan voted for Rb, then Ashley, then Juice then no vote
avarim: He voted Ashley? Not what I heard.
Hooker: I mean - that means nothing, I know they are all doing what they think is best for them, no one was actually looking out for me

Hooker: that Ash vote was 4-4-1 who else voted for Ash then?

Hooker: me Juice and Jeff obviously, but someone else did
Hooker: I assumed it was him, maybe not?
avarim: I believe it was either Tom or Tucker.

avarim: But I'm almost sure it wasn't Jordan.
Hooker: Oh wait - Juice was on exile

Hooker: trhere were two besides me and Jeff
avarim: Maybe you are right, I just had the feeling Jordan voted with us for some reason.
Hooker: probably said so - I know he is talking to al sides
avarim: I think we gave Ashley two votes in case of an idol so we could tie it in case you guys voted for one of us.

avarim: And I was under the impression it was Tom or Tucker.
Hooker: Yea, Tucker says he did, I thought the other was Jordan, but maybe it was Tom - I don;t think I ever asked him right out...?
avarim: Maybe, I don't know. I don't want to assume.
Hooker: nah - me either really I guess. no matter who it was, the reasoning was once again their own, and had little to actually do with me
avarim: Yes, that's true. I just feel Jordan is too much of a challenge threat and he is also a wildcard, I never know what he is thinking.
Hooker: yea. I guess that's definately true. I just prefered the one I don't know about (Which includes almost everyone) to the one I know is after me I guess.
avarim: We just really need to figure it out.

avarim: I think our two biggest threats are Jeffrey (because of the idol) and Jordan, then Tom.
Hooker: I just feel like I would be making myself even more vulnerable that I have been to go much further with both guys who have repeatedly targetted me.
avarim: I understand.

avarim: If you can take that idol, you wouldn't have to worry.

avarim: Because we could vote out Jeffrey, then you play it next round and you are guaranteed Final 5!
Hooker: Maybe if he wins immunity, he wouldn't give it to me if he isn't safe. (Which makes that impossible) I mean I can alwasy see, but I don't expect it
avarim: I don't think if he is immune he will give it to you. Because then he can guarantee himself Final 5 instead.
Hooker: lol - this is a confusing challenge
avarim: It is.
Hooker: well not really I guess, but it's confusing to know if we are doing what Sandy wants or just making it up ourselves

Hooker: we're doing a good job of being on the same page with it at least
avarim: Yes, hopefuly it's fine.

[Morgan]

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Tom: <3
Jordan: hey now
Stephen: (tucker was moved to my villains group on AIM today >_> !

Stephen: hey now

Stephen: you're an allstar

Stephen: getcha game on
avarim: Hi!
Stephen: hi!!!

Stephen: so, i'm just confused about what to do

Stephen: since tucker is supposed to go first, and he's not here
Tom: Jordan's #2...so let's start there

Tom: :-)
avarim: LOL.

avarim: Don't we need colors first?
Tom: yeah everyone picks a color in the order we set up
avarim: Oh okay, got it <3.

avarim: I didn't read that part, sorry.
Jordan: yeah ,we cant really do anything yet. unless we just start
Tom: go for it Jordizzle
Stephen: i just dunno if we are supposed to go

Stephen: since i mean, its the start time... and no one posted they cancelled

Stephen: right?
Tom: right...I can't wait around forever, so since everyone knew the start time I say we get going
Jordan: yeah - jeffrey IMed me before to tell me that he wasnt gonna be here at 9, and that he hates these challenges because they go for days sometimes. so if we start he's going to argue
avarim: Should we do a chat with all of us? Just so we can all agree together?
Jordan: not that means anything
avarim: I can't be here for too long either, I have another compromise.
Tom: well if Sandy were here running it he'd have us get started
avarim: I agree, Sandy doesn't like waiting.
Tom: (since I missed the last live challenge by 10 minutes)
avarim: You and me both LOL.
Jordan: hooker just IMed me too

Jordan: ugh
Stephen: i started a chat with hooker too

Stephen: can yall join that as well?
avarim: Of course <3.
Stephen: ok everyone trap hooker

Stephen: :-P !!!
Tom: lawlz
Jordan: hahah
avarim: LOL, okay <3.
Jordan: SWEET

Jordan: whoa sorry

Jordan: sweet. i am that excited. but lower case
Stephen: hahaha.
avarim: LOL <3.
Stephen: ok you guys

Stephen: let's figure this out!

Stephen: hooker is sort of surrounded

Stephen: we should probably all head his direction and cut him off, then leave plenty of room

Stephen: so to the orange dot, ho!
avarim: Okay <3.
Tom: haha
Stephen: does that sound like a plan?

Stephen: and as we get going, we can share thoughts on which space to move to in here

Stephen: so secretive!
Jordan: <3
avarim: Guys I'm going to move to V first, because if not I'll be blocking Tom later.

avarim: And Stephen too.
Stephen: sounds good!

Stephen: be sure to leave some places to move back to that corner too since no one is really over there
Jordan: yeah im gonna meander a bit down at the bottom juust in case he escapes .. but ill head in his general direction
Stephen: ok cool
Stephen: hmmm what do you think tom?
avarim: It looks like it's more up to you two than me and Jordan because of the direction he took.
Stephen: tom wanna work on him from the left
Tom: I was gonna go to Y
Stephen: and i'll take the right and get him in case he turns around?

Stephen: ok perfect

Stephen: even if we can all draw a box around him to make sure he's stuck somewhere
Jordan: yeah stephen you go right and tom go from the other side

Jordan: i think thatd work
avarim: Can V go to three?
Stephen: and if you 2 jordan and morgan can kinda make a border at the bottom/middle so he cant go low

Stephen: or something
avarim: Will do <3.
Tom: no, V can't go to 3
avarim: Okay, understood.
Jordan: no?
avarim: So it's always straight lines.
Stephen: just on the black lines, i'm guessing
Tom: yeah
Jordan: is it just one segment per move? or one straight line
Tom: I checked how they did it in FvF and it was only straight lines
avarim: Okay, I wanted to make sure <3.
Jordan: but you can go back to the same black dot as long as you dont cross the path

Jordan: right?
Tom: I think so
Tom: lawlz, we can make our own rules like with the potato challenge

Tom: ;-)
Jordan: memorieeessss
Stephen: yeah haha
Tom: ughhhh

Tom: what a fun night
Stephen: NOT

Stephen: :-P
Tom: yes, sarcasm abounding
Jordan: all of us beat juice in the end
Tom: indeed :-)
Stephen: he takes YEARS
avarim: He does...
Tom: he's old
avarim: LOL!!!!!
Jordan: hahaaaa
Tom: not Donna-old

Tom: but still kinda old
Jordan: ginny old
Stephen: donnasaur <3
Tom: I wish I could've met Ginny :-(
avarim: OMG, there had been no Donna talk in so long!!!
Stephen: i was thinking that too
avarim: She's back <3.
Jordan: she never left

Jordan: in my heart

Jordan: <3
avarim: LOL, you are going to get Tom jealous.
Tom: haha it's ok

Tom: Donna is for everyone
Stephen: so tom where are you gonna move

Stephen: ?
avarim: You share her?
Tom: just did
Jordan: you just shared her?
avarim: LOL!
Jordan: multitasking <3
avarim: Tom talking of Donna as an object <3.
Tom: haha, all this Donna talk is making my heart melt
avarim: LOL.

[Morgan]

Tom: hey love, I think when you move you should head in Jordan's direction...I don't like him having the whole bottom of the board to himself
avarim: Yeah me either, I was thinking of that until Stephen spoke up.

avarim: But I will be blocking you, if I move up too. So that's not good.
Tom: yeah, so just go down and to the right, and everyone wins :-)
avarim: They are going to get mad.
Tom: who?
avarim: Stephen and Jordan.
Tom: nah, you can still go down and to the right and aim for the orange dot

Tom: you don't have to go up and right
Tom: hey...so are you leaving soon?
avarim: I think so, yes.
Tom: ok...when you move can you go to 9 then?
avarim: I was going to move to 7, but then I will block you, right?
Tom: right...but hold on, I'm thinking how Hooker will move next

Tom: haha just wanna have as much room to work with as possible
avarim: Can you pass again through your dot or mine?
Tom: just go to 7

Tom: I think I can work an opening
avarim: Okay, sorry hon <3.

[Morgan]

Right now I'm doing my best to make sure the target is Jeffrey, Tom is being naive and believing him when he says he might vote for Tucker, but I think it will be a really bad move on Jeffrey's part and he is an EXTREMELY smart boy so he will never EVER go for it. If anything he will give the idol to Tucker and take out one of us. I think Tom and Jeffrey are tight, very tight, Tom is fighting extremely hard to vote out Tucker instead. It makes no sense and he is pushing so hard, also the fact he barely communicates with me anymore makes me doubt it. I no longer trust Tom, and I realize the big threat he is, he has been ignoring me, neglecting me and I no longer feels like he has me in any type of plans for him besides doing whatever he wants, he even showed that at the challenge last night when he tried to tell me what to do exactly so he could win.

I am talking very straight forward with Stephen and honestly, I don't see myself betraying him, it may be a weak thing from me to do but if I don't win then I want Stephen to win, he deserves it. He has played a very straight-forward, loyal and heroic game and it will be an honour for him to win at the very end.

Right now I am going to try and vote out Jeffrey and hope things go our way, my only other option is Jordan or maybe Tucker but Jeffrey having that idol guarantees him Final 5 and people NEED to realize it, no one listen to me though, it's extremely frustrating because it's making me realize that maybe I was just always a vote, in which case I won't feel guilty if I turn on them.

[Morgan]

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Tom: hey friends
Stephen: hey!
avarim: Hi!
Stephen: well this sure is a stressful vote!
Tom: yeahhh
Tom: to say the least
Stephen: i feel like there's so many choices and possibilities
Stephen: this freaking idol!
Tom: yeah...wish I'd found that thing 9 and a half minutes earlier :-(
avarim: I think we should vote for Jeffrey, throwing that out there.
Stephen: oh i think it would be awesome to get jeffrey out now, but i dont know how jordan feels about that
avarim: Well, if we don't Jeffrey get's to Final 5 because he can play his idol.
avarim: I mean, Jordan needs to realize it's either take him out now that it's our last chance or one of us might very well go next round.
Tom: well we should've voted Jeffrey out when we did Juice if we were gonna do it at all
Tom: so personally I'd rather go Tucker or Hooker
avarim: Why would we keep him now though...
Stephen: that's true, but i think jordan's fear is this...
Stephen: if say us 4 voted jeffrey, he's the one in the position where he's lying to the other side a ton
Stephen: and if jeffrey did play the idol and like i got out (or you morgan depending on who they vote) jordan will feel completely done
Stephen: since all them will be even more pissed at him
Stephen: so i see it from his point of view...
Stephen: but at the same time, part of me realizes this is it! we gotta do something here!
avarim: I just think he won't play it this round, if he saves it for next round he is guaranteed Final 5, especially if we make him think we are all on board with Tucker, then that way he may give it to tucker.
Stephen: right so either he'd give it to tucker, or keep it and not play it
Stephen: both are more likely than playing it himself this round
avarim: I agree, so it's the PERFECT opportunity.
Stephen: Jeffrey (12:42:29 PM): i'm prying people's brains right now

Jeffrey (12:42:37 PM): trying to figure out what's going on
nevadasoutherner (12:43:00 PM): well i'll just throw this out there

nevadasoutherner (12:43:06 PM): what about all of us just voting tucker?
avarim: I'll say the same when he asks me, honestly it's our very best bet.
Stephen: Jeffrey (12:43:44 PM): i think that's what's gonna happen

Jeffrey (12:43:51 PM): and it's just easy cause tucker hasn't even been ~on~


Jeffrey (12:43:55 PM): so there's that
nevadasoutherner (12:44:15 PM): k
Stephen: ... i don't really buy it
avarim: In what sense?
Stephen: well "so there's that"
Stephen: just gives me the vibe of "ok go be a good boy and just believe that"
avarim: LOL, yeah it does sound that way
avarim: !
avarim: I really think he might give the idol to Tucker, if he thinks that's his best move.
avarim: I mean that way for Final 6 he will have 3-2 with Jordan being the tie-breaker.
Tom: ahhh so confused
Tom: talking to Jeffrey...he seems to be worried of a Jordan-Tucker-Hooker threesome that would boot him at the f5
Tom: maybe I'm naive, but I think he'd vote Tucker
avarim: Jeffrey is extremely sketchy, I don't trust him at all.
avarim: I doubt he will, it will be a really bad move for him, like think about it from an omniscient point of view.
Stephen: ok ok let's back up
Stephen: if he's even thinking of a jordan-tucker-hooker thing
Stephen: that puts 2 of us 3 out before that case
Stephen: meaning he's been thinking about voting us out...
Stephen: just to mention that.
Tom: well I'm sure Tucker wants you and me out next, Stephen
Stephen: right for sure
Tom: and that he'd want Jeffrey and Hooker and Jordan to go along with that
Stephen: i think i can count on jeffrey over tucker right now
Stephen: tucker completely stopped talking to me
Tom: but Jeffrey's not stupid, he knows he'd be out first if all us heroes get knocked out
avarim: Tucker hasn't even been online though, and you guys are failing to realize that Tucker does not have an idol that guarantees him Final 5.
avarim: Jeffrey is extremely smart, it will make no sense for him tog et rid of Tucker who is ALONE.
avarim: How will that make sense for him in the long run?
Stephen: that's very very true
avarim: Jeffrey is really really smart, there is no way at all that he will do such a big mistake. I mean if Tucker goes, he can be Final 5 but then he will be alone because non of us will help him.
Tom: I don't think Tucker's alone
Tom: brb
Tom: ok back
Stephen: ok
avarim: Welcome back!
avarim: We need to decide soon what to do, votes are due tonight.
Stephen: yes
Stephen: i think right now i'm still torn between jeffrey or tucker
Stephen: and i apologize for being indecisive but i really have a strong feeling it's going to be me getting 3 votes
Tom: I realize it's easier for me to decide since I have immunity and it's one of your necks on the line if I'm wrong...but I still have to go with Tucker here
avarim: I told you hon, if you feel better by it you can have them vote for me. And then we can vote out Jeffrey, I am confident he won't play the idol this round because it will make absolutely no sense at all.
Stephen: but i cant just have them vote you
Stephen: it's their decision
Stephen: :-(
avarim: I mean if you feel safer that way, you can do it. I'm fine with it. I know the best decision right now is voting out Jeffrey. It's the only thing that makes any sense to me.
Stephen: tom... how much do you feel like you can trust jeffrey on this?
Stephen: but no matter what, we have to find a compromise because if we don't vote together, it's a lost cause
Tom: more than I'd trust Tucker, which is why I'd want the latter to go
Tom: I do believe Jeffrey that he feels he'll be first out after me and Stephen go
Tom: once that idol expires, he's toast unless he wins immunity
avarim: He can easily win the two immunities after Final 5... he has it guaranteed.
Tom: yeah but you can't throw stock in winning immunity
Tom: he's smarter than that
Stephen: oh God... and here's tucker
Tom: yay
avarim: Why would he EVER vote for Tucker?
avarim: It will alienate himself further more, he already claimed to be an underdog, why would he make his chances worst?
Tom: because if he doesn't vote Tucker now, he'll never get the chance
avarim: But Tucker is on his side.
Stephen: maybe jeffrey thinks he CAN trust tom more than tucker...
Tom: for now
Tom: but like I said, once the idol expires Tucker's already told me he has no plans to keep Jeffrey in since Jeffrey would win in the finals
Stephen: ok tom... i just asked jordan, and he will 100% vote jeffrey if we all want to
Stephen: here's what im thinking
Stephen: if jeffrey AND the idol go now... nothing can stop us 4 from being final 4
Stephen: and ultimately, top 3
Stephen: if we get tucker off now, the idol is probably STILL a big worry for next round
Stephen: but idk... i could see both choices working and both going wrong
Stephen: it's soooooooooo tough!
avarim: If Jeffrey and his idol survive this round, one of us is leaving at Final 6, guaranteed.
avarim: If either him or Hooker win immunity, we are completely done.
Stephen: i think they'd vote one of us out before jordan too
avarim: I agree. And as Tom said you two seem to be bigger targets than me.
Tom: ok, I'm following yall's logic I think
Tom: but I worry about keeping Jordan-Tucker in this game another round...I could see Jordan jumping ship to Tucker-Hooker next round if we did Jeffrey this one
avarim: Even then, it will be a tie.
avarim: The idol doesn't even let us tie.
avarim: With the tie we have a 50-50 chance. With the idol wehave 75-25, and is all resting on immunity.
Stephen: but if jordan votes jeffrey now
Stephen: that's a statement that he's committed to us
Tom: right
avarim: I agree.
Stephen: im thinking of what erin would do
Tom: but if Jeffrey goes, then another idol goes into play
Tom: and the idol will still be in their hands anyway
Stephen: and she would surely be game for getting jeffrey now
Stephen: when all the eyes are looking at tucker
avarim: She would be.
Stephen: the best thing we can do is all barely speak to tucker
Stephen: so it will make him feel even more vulnerable
avarim: Make them thing is Tucker, hope Jeffrey gives him the idol.
avarim: Vote out Jeffrey.
Stephen: or jeffrey will end up voting tucker too AND he's gone
avarim: Yes.
avarim: I don't see that many risks in that plan, comapred to the consequences long term of keeping Jeffrey with the idol.
Stephen: the only risk now is jeffrey playing the idol
Stephen: for himself
Tom: so Jordan is 100% for voting Jeffrey?
Tom: see for some reason I've had sketchy vibes with Jordan lately...makes me wonder how he would've voted last round if he had a vote
avarim: I think it's easier for Jordan to vote Jeffrey than Tucker, regardless, since him and Tucker seemed to be tight.
avarim: But I know what you mean Tom, I don't fully trust him either.
avarim: So, what should we do?
Tom: great question!
Stephen: ahhhh
Tom: Tucker talking to either of you?
Stephen: we gotta just make a decision and run with it
Stephen: nope, not a word!
Tom: me either
Tom: weird
avarim: I talked to him for a few seconds, but he isn't being conversational or anything.
avarim: Should we invite Jordan in?
Stephen: ill prolly make a new chat if we wanna do that
Stephen: dont want him thinking we've been chatting this entire time
Stephen: lol
avarim: Good idea, I think you should. So us four can land our idea and go for it.
Tom: ok sounds good to me
Stephen: ok let's exit this one
Stephen: and ill start the other
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[Morgan]

Hooker (TheHooker0065) is available
avarim: Hi!
Hooker: hey
avarim: How are you?
Hooker: not too bad - kind of busy at work
Hooker: well slightly anyway
avarim: Awe, do you want me to let you go?
Hooker: nah - it's all good
Hooker: I just sit here in front of this screen anyway!
avarim: LOL, okay. So, about the vote, what are you thinking?
Hooker: I dunno I am having a hard time sorting out if anyone is telling me thr truth anymore
avarim: Awe, I'm sorry honey.
Hooker: I was starting ot feel better, but now I am not so sure again.
Hooker: You read my PM on the board yet?
avarim: I did, it sounds crazy. I'm talking to the boys right now.
avarim: Who brought my name up?
Hooker: Well me, Jeff and Jordan were talking after the comp... no one actually wanted to vote you. It was kind of a "What about Stephen? what about Tucker? what about Morgan, etc" thing, but everyone agreed not to vote for you...
avarim: That's good, right now I'm making sure it's not you.
Hooker: Stephen wants me to proise not to vote for him, but I am having a hard time deciding if I can trust him or not - last few times he said similar things tnen wrote my name down...
avarim: I don't think the vote is for you, right now it seems to go for either of the other two.
avarim: I'm talking to Stephen, neither of us want you gone.
Hooker: really?? casue I am starting ot get the feeling that there IS going ot be another shot at me
avarim: Well right now it doesn't seem like it.
Hooker: wow - everyone is on - right when I am super busy and about to leave!! lmao - -figures!
avarim: LOL, awwwe.
Hooker: SO what is going on then - I still hear Tucker and Stephen with hints that my name is going around, but that may be idol fear again?
avarim: You are not going to get any votes, I'm almost possitive.
Hooker: so then it is probably between the other 2...
avarim: Yes. Definitively.
Hooker: Do we likely vote opposite and just let the chips fall where they will?? I wouldn't feel right voting against the guy who just saved my ass LAST round, the very next tribal... and I assume you would rather not vote for Stephen?
avarim: Yes, I think it's better for us to keep our little alliance under cover still. We just vote each our way and see what happens, then move from there.
Hooker: As long as it's between them, then it really doesn't matter to us. We just need to make sure to find the right time to "bring it into the open" and not let the opportunity pass by, but right now it is probably best to keep everything as quiet as possible
avarim: I agree, we will do it, but right now when we are not being targetted there's no need.
Hooker: just as long as any 1 "side" doesn't get TOO strong
avarim: Agreed.
Hooker: well I guess I need to head off - work is over - lol
Hooker: I iwll def be back on for most of the evening though!!!!
avarim: Bye hon, I will try to be back myself.
avarim: I'm leaving soon.
Hooker: what time is it for you?
avarim: 3:41.
Hooker: same as me - thought so
avarim: You are in central as well?
Hooker: yea, so I should be around from 7 till deadline!!!
Hooker: yea central - dead center of Canada
avarim: I thought I was the only one who was central.
Hooker: not sure - Stephen is Pacific, Jordan Easter... you and me central - Tucker 6 hours ahead of us in England and I have no idea where Tom lives
avarim: Georgia.
Hooker: Ahh
Hooker: which is West Coast?
Hooker: or East - lol
avarim: I don't know.
Hooker: I don;t know anything about the states! haha
Hooker: Must be East!! The Altalnta Thrashers play in the Easter Division in hockey!!!! (lol, so Canadian of me)
avarim: LOL. Then he is probably Eastern.
Hooker: Probably!!
Hooker: well - I'll see you later, if not then *fingers crossed nothing too crazy is going on that we don't know about!*
avarim: You won't be the vote, I'm 100% sure.
avarim: See you later <3.
Hooker: Same with you, I am never 100% on anything, but I'm 99% (And I AM 100% that I won;t vote for you!)
avarim: I won't vote for you either, I swear.
Hooker: so with out my vote that would make it next to immpossible to get you anyway
avarim: I don't know if it will make it impossible without my vote, but it will be a lot harder <3.
Hooker: pretty much, I think if it was to swing ot either of us the other would HAVE to know about it
Hooker: so it won't!!
Hooker: Anyway - talk to ya later fi you make it on!! and if not then tomorrow I guess!
avarim: Yes, if it's me or you, we let the other know so we can act accordingly.
avarim: Bye bye!! Have a good day honey.

[Morgan]

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avarim: Jordan, hon, when you come back, let me know please <3.
Jordan: hey! im here haha
Jordan: i dont know why my away message wont go away
avarim: LOL, that's weird. How are you?
avarim: This vote is crazy Jordan, we need your input like so bad!
Jordan: Pretty good! work is mellow today
Jordan: plenty of time for vote chatter haha
Jordan: all 7 of us are on, this is nuts!
avarim: Tom wants to vote out Tucker, I think the best thing to do is to vote for Jeffrey but he is really stubborn against it.
Jordan: i mean i'm always for the jeffrey surprise to get rid of that dang idol
Jordan: but we have no idea what he's going to do with it!
avarim: I feel like he won't use it on himself.
avarim: Everyone is talking about voting Tucker so if anything he will give it to Tucker or save it for the Final 6 to guarantee himself Final 5.
Jordan: yeah i tend to agree with you
avarim: I mean if we keep Jeffrey then he wins immunity next round, he gives the idol to Hooker, one of us goes. It's that simple.
Jordan: right. even if hooker wins immunity one of us goes
Jordan: because jeffrey can just play it for himself
avarim: Exactly.
avarim: Tom is being so stubborn though!
Jordan: ughh, i mean it's kind of a crapshoot at this point, you know?
avarim: Yes, it is. But the odds seem better at voting out Jordan over Tucker, I feel.
Jordan: you mean Jeffrey? haha
avarim: Yes, sorry <3.
avarim: I don't know why I said your name LOL.
avarim: Too many conversations!!!
Jordan: hahah i know!
Jordan: my boss just IMed me too
Jordan: im afraid im gonna start talking to him about hidden immunity idols
avarim: LOL, that will be really really funny though!
Jordan: i agree with you - i think jeffrey would only keep the idol till next round or give it to someone else if he felt they were in danger
avarim: I'm glad someone finally agrees with me <3. I feel sometimes like my opinion isn't really taken into consideration.

[Morgan]

Stephen (nevadasoutherner) is available
avarim: Hi!
Stephen: hey!!!
Stephen: TOM WON IMMUNITY
Stephen: woo hoooo!
avarim: I saw! That's amazing!
Stephen: :-)
avarim: I didn't get any PM's though, so I don't know what is going on right now?
Stephen: now, it's a matter of voting someone without jeffrey giving them the idol!
avarim: Wouldn't it be safer to vote for Jeffrey?
Stephen: well according to hooker, the names out there are you, me, him, and tucker
avarim: We can convince Hooker he is the vote.
Stephen: well the thing is, tom is saying jeffrey may actually vote tucker too...
avarim: I don't know... that could mean he gives the idol to Tucker.
Stephen: yeah its so hard to know where the idol will come into play
avarim: I think Jeffrey will save it for next round or give it to Tucker since he knows he is the target.
Stephen: right but tom was saying last night, jeffrey was bonding with him over that no one wants to be in the finals with them
Stephen: and i think he made jeffrey realize tucker is just using him for the idol now
Stephen: so i dont think jeffrey likes tucker much right now
avarim: Jeffrey is a little sketchy...
Stephen: he is the most sketchy!
avarim: I am getting this vibe that Tom and Jeffrey are a lot more tighter than he lets on.
Stephen: they could be!
Stephen: but morgan right now, i'm trying to think of what's better for me and you
Stephen: because one of us is probably getting those votes
Stephen: or at least some
Stephen: =\
avarim: I am too, but Jeffrey will not play the idol, I think that's the least likely possibility.
Stephen: i am not going to betray you in this game
Stephen: you have my word
avarim: If you feel better about it, get them to vote for me. I am confident with this move.
Stephen: i've trusted you since before day 1 and i will never back down on that
Stephen: no because i don't want to throw you into a bad position
avarim: It's fine honey, I am sure about this. Jeffrey will not play that idol.
Stephen: do you think tom would turn against you in the end?
avarim: I've been getting a feeling he might, he barely ever talks to me.
Stephen: and i will 100% vote jeffrey, but only if jordan is because or else, we won't have 4
Stephen: and that's the problem
avarim: We need to talk to Jordan.
Stephen: ok think about this situation
Stephen: and this must stay between us
Stephen: IF tucker did go this round
Stephen: and then hooker
Stephen: final 5 would be me, you, tom, jeffrey, and jordan
Stephen: if we found out tom and jeffrey had a thing this whole time, we could still manage to make it to the end with jordan
Stephen: like stephen/morgan/jordan final 3
Stephen: if that happened
avarim: I don't know hon, I trust Hooker a lot more than a lot of them.
avarim: Between me and you, of course.
Stephen: yeah
Stephen: well the great thing about us is ppl don't know we even talk ^_^
avarim: And Jordan is such a wildcard, I never know anything he is thinking.
avarim: LOL yes, that's true <3.
Stephen: i am pretty sure jordan trusts me more than even tucker and hooker and all of them
Stephen: or else, he could easily flop and vote with those guys against me this round
Stephen: and he promised me he's not doing that
Stephen: what is hooker saying?
avarim: He isn't talking too much right now/
avarim: now.*
avarim: He told me you want him to promise him not to vote for him. But he doesn't know if he can trust you since you lied to him before with the same thing.
Stephen: yeah, he told me he wouldn't promise that back to me
Stephen: and i understand
avarim: I'm telling him he won't be the vote, there's no way I will vote him out at this point.
Stephen: right
Stephen: no one is voting him lol
avarim: Yes, exactly.
avarim: Something is going on between those two, he is being too defensive about it when normally we allow the people who aren't immune to have the bigger say.
Stephen: let me ask jordan
Stephen: and see what he says about the idea of voting jeffrey
Stephen: k?
avarim: Okay.
avarim: Jordan's back.
avarim: Did you ask him?
Stephen: im waiting for a response, yeah
Stephen: here's the answer
Stephen: Jordan (1:13:26 PM): yeah absolutely .. like we talked about last night im always ready for a jeffrey surprise :-)
avarim: There, Jordan is with us.
avarim: I hope Tom seems what we are saying.
Stephen: i think he does
avarim: If he doesn't, after all the good arguments we have given then something is there.
avarim: Everyone went quiet...
Stephen: im honestly thinking
Stephen: not talking to a single person haha
avarim: LOL why?
Stephen: oh not on purpose, i was just deep in thought
Stephen: haha
avarim: I can't believe I said Jordan.
Stephen: hahaha its ok!
avarim: I hate to say this but he is driving me crazy!
Stephen: =\
avarim: I feel he is trying too hard to defend something that doesn't really make sense to me.
avarim: I love Tom, but I don't understand what he is doing.

[Morgan]

I'm pushing really really hard for Jeffrey to go home. He HAS to go, he is the biggest threat right now and he can ruin all of my plans, Tom is defending him a little bit too much, he is making a big mistake, he is putting his neck on the line for someone who is not all that trustworthy and he is showing us that he is not as solid with us as all of us previously thought. It isn't looking good for him, but his behavior is helping ME out, because if push comes to shove I can refer back to this incident to show how shady Tom is playing. I feel awful talking like that of my good friend but I know that it's just a game and non of this people will take it as a personal thing, I hope so. I wouldn't.

The vote is going for Jeffrey, no doubt about it, we are all convinced and Tom is the only one who won't change his mind, I won't change my mind to vote someone else either so either he changes or we split the votes and someone else goes home. It's time for my opinion to be heard and taken as part of the group! If they don't want it, I'll take it somewhere else where they will like to hear my input.

[Morgan]

nevadasoutherner has entered the room.
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avarim has entered the room.
Stephen: ugh work dammit!
Tom: maybe he needs to sign off/on
Stephen: he may try starting one
Stephen: yeah
Stephen: this is a bad sign
Stephen: ;-)
pinkertonantics has entered the room.
Jordan: f aim
Jordan: hi guys!
Stephen: woo hooooo!
Tom: wo0t!
avarim: Hi!
avarim: Okay, so should we land this?
Stephen: please! let's figure this out and go with it.
Tom: haha
Tom: but can't we drag it out for 5 more glorious hours?
Tom: please?
Stephen: >_<
Stephen: lol
Stephen: i literally put up the finger at my screen!
avarim: LOL.
Jordan: hahah
Tom: lawlz...just kidding
Tom: I'm home for 2 more hours before work, but would surely prefer not to be online that whole time
Stephen: same
Stephen: and im hungry and i wanna eat soon
avarim: Let's get to it then <3. Our options are Jordan and Tucker.
Stephen: and i stink and i wanna shower
Stephen: >_>
avarim: I need to cook for Payton when he comes home from work LOL.
Tom: Jeffrey and Tucker
Tom: haha
Stephen: HAHAHAHA
Jordan: oh yah?
avarim: I keep saying Jordan, what's wrong with me? Sorry hon <3.
Tom: yeahhh Jordan...we're kinda thinking of voting you this round
Jordan: *makes a note of it*
Stephen: i dunno... jordan sounds like a pretty good option!
Tom: surprise, surprise
Tom: :-)
avarim: Anyways JEFFREY and Tucker.
Tom: haha, yes, that's better
Stephen: well jeffrey said if its tucker, he's throwing a random vote out there
Stephen: but, if those 3 do end up voting together, it's prolly me or morgan leaving if whoever we vote plays the idol.
Stephen: wanna just throw out there where we're leaning right now?
Stephen: i'll say im more for a jeffrey vote (since he doesn't expect it)
avarim: I want to vote out Jeffrey myself.
Jordan: yeah im always for a Jeffrey surprise with that idol, and it's risky in both scenarios
Jordan: id say equally risky
Tom: yeahh...I'm mostly undecided, though if I had to pick at this point I'd lean more toward Tucker
Tom: so I guess I'll be the lone dissenter
Stephen: tom plug your ears for a second
Stephen: (ok you guys how can we change his mind?)
Tom: <333
Jordan: hey tom, ive got donna's sexy Geocities homepage link
Jordan: ;-)
Stephen: hahaha
avarim: LOL!
Tom: WHAT WHERE
Stephen: yeah tom
Stephen: i'll get you her autograph!
Stephen: with a lipstick kiss on it!
Stephen:
avarim: Maybe even a picture with Donna herself <3.
Stephen: ^
Tom: I just feel like if we're wrong and Jeffrey plays the idol for himself, we get Pissed Off Jeffrey version 2.0, which will be way worse than the first version
avarim: But it will make no sense for him to play it this round, I feel. He either gives it to Tucker or saves it to guarantee himself the Final 5.
avarim: Especially since he thinks we are all willing to vote for Tucker.
Stephen: but tom, we could be wrong voting tucker too
Stephen: if jeffrey gives tucker the idol
Stephen: since he knows we are voting that way supposedly
Jordan: yeah i mean its risky either way
Tom: I guess playing devil's advocate, I see him playing the idol as more likely than him giving it to Tucker
Stephen: there's a higher chance of tucker playing the idol than jeffrey at this point
Stephen: i agree with morgan
Stephen: =\
Stephen: but either way, if we're wrong, we all are in trouble
Stephen: no matter who is left and what the decision is
avarim: Definitively.
Tom: oy
Tom: so Stephen/Morgan are firmly in the voting-Jeffrey camp...Jordan are you leaning heavily toward one or the other?
Jordan: yeah im in the jeffrey camp too. because its equally risky but with jeffrey out the reward is way greater
Jordan: your point is very well taken about jeffrey 2.0 though
Tom: yeah
Tom: I just feel like if we were gonna vote Jeffrey we should've done it the round Juice left
avarim: But that round is long over, we didn't do it. We can't dwell on the past.
avarim: We have to focus on the future of the game, you know?
Stephen: tom
Stephen: take a leap of faith?!
Stephen: <3?
Tom: here's why it's hard for me...cuz if he plays it and Stephen (or Morgan) goes, I'm #1 on Jeffrey's hit list next round
Tom: no question
Tom: and I don't doubt he can find another idol for a second
Stephen: but tom
Stephen: i feel like he's lying to you
Stephen: about watching out for you or whatever
Stephen: it's jeffrey. he's a villain for a reason@!
Tom: I know, I know
Stephen: i will be back in a minute you guys
Stephen: i need to eat something
Tom: it's not the watching out for me thing that makes me want to keep him...again, it's what will happen if he plays the idol and is still here next round after I've said I'm voting for Tucker
avarim: I need to go cook soon.
avarim: Tom, if it goes wrong, next round if I win immunity I will give it to you, how does that sound?
Tom: aw Morgan, that's sweet of you
avarim: Honestly, I really really feel strongly about voting Jeffrey this round.
Tom: ok...if you 3 feel that's best
Tom: I'm not gonna argue for the next couple hours
avarim: So then that is it? Can I place my vote before I go cook? I'll try to come back later today, but just in case.
Stephen: i'm down with that
Stephen: (havent left yet)
Stephen: one thing
Stephen: if we're doing this
Stephen: we all need to be really careful and make sure they think we're voting tucker!
Stephen: like don't go out of your way to make it suspicious, but yeah...
Jordan: sorry sorry back - doing 8 things at work
Jordan: yah im ok with all of tat
Jordan: that
avarim: Yes, I agree.
avarim: Okay then, I will vote now and I will go cook, then I will try to be back tonight <3. See you later boys <3.
Stephen: goodbye!!!
Tom: yeah I'll be back on an hour or two before votes are due
Stephen: cook well!
Stephen: one thing
avarim: I will do my best! LOL.
avarim: Yes?
Stephen: i wont be around before the vote is due
Stephen: so ther'es no changing for me
Stephen: =\
Stephen: unless somehow work is super slow and i happen to be cut extremely early...
Tom: ok then