Episode 4 - We Got A Little Cocky

[jordan]

Jordan & Stephen talk strategy:

pinkertonantics (3:14:07 PM): hey man
"Stephen" (3:14:34 PM): what's up?
pinkertonantics (3:14:37 PM): see results are up?
"Stephen" (3:14:41 PM): yeah, i did!
"Stephen" (3:14:54 PM): i was convulsing before seeing them, obviously
"Stephen" (3:14:57 PM):
pinkertonantics (3:15:00 PM): hahah
"Stephen" (3:15:20 PM): tribal does make me nervous though. let's not go back anytime soon.
pinkertonantics (3:16:19 PM): yeah absolutely
pinkertonantics (3:16:29 PM): this vote was so weird .. everyone had no clue what they were doing
pinkertonantics (3:16:36 PM): then all of a sudden i heard jamie over and over
pinkertonantics (3:16:42 PM): one of those organic things
"Stephen" (3:16:47 PM): yeah
pinkertonantics (3:16:54 PM): definitley an "im just glad its not me" TC haha
"Stephen" (3:16:56 PM): it's weird... i don't even know who started the jamie train
"Stephen" (3:16:58 PM): EXACTLY
pinkertonantics (3:16:59 PM): yeah me neither
"Stephen" (3:17:03 PM): that's what i wrote in my answers
"Stephen" (3:17:07 PM): errr...
"Stephen" (3:17:08 PM): reason
"Stephen" (3:17:11 PM): for the vote
"Stephen" (3:17:24 PM): once i heard another name with people voting them, i was down
"Stephen" (3:17:32 PM): jamie will be missed, just like anyone would
"Stephen" (3:17:36 PM): but SOMEONE had to go
pinkertonantics (3:17:39 PM): yeah exactly
"Stephen" (3:17:43 PM): and i don't mind this pattern of girls leaving
"Stephen" (3:17:45 PM): hahahaha jk
pinkertonantics (3:17:47 PM): hahaha
pinkertonantics (3:18:04 PM): a few people were saying they didnt want to vote out anyone who was on skype/stayed up late at the last challenge
pinkertonantics (3:18:05 PM): so that was nice
"Stephen" (3:18:15 PM): for sure
"Stephen" (3:18:23 PM): were me/you/erin/tom last?
pinkertonantics (3:18:28 PM): yeah
pinkertonantics (3:18:31 PM): and tucker
pinkertonantics (3:18:38 PM): i like that little group we had on skype
"Stephen" (3:19:05 PM): i did too!
"Stephen" (3:19:20 PM): i had such a good time that night, even though it was torture with the posting
"Stephen" (3:19:51 PM): i havent heard anyone say a bad thing about you this whole game
"Stephen" (3:22:17 PM): i think you're in a good spot, i was i was trying to say
pinkertonantics (3:22:40 PM): yeah we at least kept each other entertained
pinkertonantics (3:22:43 PM): which was half the battle
"Stephen" (3:22:50 PM): hahaha yep
"Stephen" (3:23:00 PM): i'm just so tired about the villains bitching about everything!
pinkertonantics (3:23:03 PM): that challenge was so stupid, once it was down to you guys it was just about who had less of a life. and we all have real shit to do
pinkertonantics (3:23:08 PM): yeah its so so annoying
pinkertonantics (3:23:12 PM): your TC answer was spot on
"Stephen" (3:23:14 PM): i know its because they realize we are pretty stacked, and they are kinda mediocre
"Stephen" (3:23:40 PM): yeah, juice would have been there 58483 hours whether his teammates got our or not
"Stephen" (3:23:47 PM): so i dont see how its this miraculous comeback!
"Stephen" (3:24:00 PM): but... i guess we'll let him have his shining moment, whatever
pinkertonantics (3:25:11 PM): yeah and at least it got us to open up *some* discussion about strategy and stuff
pinkertonantics (3:25:29 PM): i was so confused .. i hadn't heard anything at all for the first two rounds of the game
pinkertonantics (3:25:31 PM): kind terrifying
pinkertonantics (3:25:34 PM): kinda
"Stephen" (3:26:08 PM): haha no worries, i didn't hear anything either
"Stephen" (3:26:29 PM): i dont think anyone wanted to be the first to bring it up, even though we'd all be the biggest liars in the world to say it wasn't on our minds
pinkertonantics (3:26:33 PM): yeah i dont think anyone did!
pinkertonantics (3:26:37 PM): absolutely
"Stephen" (3:27:04 PM): that's the funny thing about us heroes... we KNOW the mean survivor side of us is there, but we try so hard to not let it devour us too soon
"Stephen" (3:27:05 PM): hahahaha
pinkertonantics (3:27:06 PM): and thanks for what you said before btw - i haven't heard anyone say a bad thing about you either
pinkertonantics (3:27:11 PM): haha yeah exactly
"Stephen" (3:27:14 PM): awesome! and you're welcome!
pinkertonantics (3:27:44 PM): and i've got your back .. meteorologists gotta stick together
pinkertonantics (3:27:44 PM): haha
"Stephen" (3:27:50 PM): hahaha for sure!
"Stephen" (3:28:02 PM): i will let you know if you're in danger or anything like that, promise
pinkertonantics (3:28:05 PM): yeah same
"Stephen" (3:28:20 PM): cool!
"Stephen" (3:28:28 PM): its so bittersweet to click to well with a tribe
"Stephen" (3:28:37 PM): because its so fun, yet soooo painful to lose people
pinkertonantics (3:28:49 PM): yeah exactly
pinkertonantics (3:29:02 PM): yesterday i was almost wishing we had one or two inactive people just so the vote would be easy
pinkertonantics (3:29:09 PM): but then we wouldnt be as awesome
"Stephen" (3:29:40 PM): haha yeah
"Stephen" (3:30:12 PM): is there anyone else you feel like you really connect with on the tribe so far? i feel like me&you get along really well, and i loooooooooove tom hahaha
pinkertonantics (3:30:31 PM): yeah i agree with all of that haha
pinkertonantics (3:30:45 PM): i think i get along pretty well with tucker too
"Stephen" (3:30:58 PM): haha tucker was hilarious
"Stephen" (3:31:06 PM): i loved all his stupid posts making bud all pissed off
pinkertonantics (3:31:12 PM): hahaha yes
pinkertonantics (3:31:20 PM): bud only posted once in that entire challenge
pinkertonantics (3:31:20 PM): haha
"Stephen" (3:32:12 PM): lol!
"Stephen" (3:32:17 PM): yet he was up like 8 hours
pinkertonantics (3:32:24 PM): yah exactly
pinkertonantics (3:32:43 PM): im a big erin fan too. you guys played together last season right?
pinkertonantics (3:32:53 PM): basically all the ppl who were up late haha
"Stephen" (3:33:03 PM): yeah, erin and i were both in bermuda
"Stephen" (3:33:32 PM): and i dont wanna hold information from you... erin and i are really good friends outside the game as well, so don't be surprised if you hear that lol
pinkertonantics (3:33:59 PM): thats awesome
"Stephen" (3:34:07 PM): it always worries me that people will just assume her and i will auto-final 2 in everything, but what can you do?
"Stephen" (3:34:19 PM): there are soooo many friendships and people linked together!
pinkertonantics (3:34:57 PM): yeah from both sides
pinkertonantics (3:35:09 PM): this tribe especially has these groups of two that have played together/know each other
"Stephen" (3:35:28 PM): def. they are all over the place
pinkertonantics (3:35:41 PM): and you can never tell if they're really tightly aligned or not - i definitely believe you guys aren't a package deal though
"Stephen" (3:36:24 PM): the way i see it is... i'll work with erin if it will help me out because i know i can trust her. and right now, i wouldn't see any reason to go against her
"Stephen" (3:36:53 PM): however, in the long run, im confident i would be the first target between me/her if someone wanted to seperate us
"Stephen" (3:37:04 PM): so that would make it worse for me having her here
pinkertonantics (3:37:24 PM): that makes a lot of sense
"Stephen" (3:37:40 PM): how do you feel about the other peruvians in the game?
"Stephen" (3:37:49 PM): (Sorry, i had to use that big word lol)
pinkertonantics (3:38:06 PM): hahah
pinkertonantics (3:38:44 PM): well erik backstabbed me badly in peru. so we've buried the hatchet and have talked and been nothing but friends this game so far, but even with all of that im not sure im ever going to be able to trust him 100%
pinkertonantics (3:38:52 PM): not that you can trust anyone 100% in this game, but you know what i mean
pinkertonantics (3:38:56 PM): always in the back of my mind
"Stephen" (3:39:11 PM): right, and that's funny because erik comes across as extremely approachable
pinkertonantics (3:39:15 PM): yeah haha
pinkertonantics (3:39:22 PM): he can be very tricky when he wants to be
pinkertonantics (3:39:29 PM): he's awesome, don't get me wrong
"Stephen" (3:40:01 PM): haha i agree. dude i promise, im not gonna go to him and be like "OMG JORDAN SAID HE CANT TRUST YOU!"
"Stephen" (3:40:10 PM): nothin will leave here
pinkertonantics (3:40:35 PM): oh i know
pinkertonantics (3:40:40 PM): and ive told him that before anyway haha
"Stephen" (3:40:44 PM): haha
pinkertonantics (3:41:14 PM): and hooker and i were aligned in peru but we're just kind of acquaintances now. he got voted out unanimously after the merge so it wasn't really dramatic or anything
"Stephen" (3:41:27 PM): okay cool
"Stephen" (3:41:38 PM): its so tough deciding who you can/can't trust though... i have been blindsided soo many times in the past that i cant help but have some trust issues in general
pinkertonantics (3:41:56 PM): yeah i basically have no ties on the other side. which is a good thing i think
"Stephen" (3:41:59 PM): but at least with me/you, i could tell from the first time we talked that from like common interests and stuff, we'd get along
pinkertonantics (3:42:08 PM): yeah man completely agree
"Stephen" (3:42:15 PM): in the back of my mind, i was hoping we'd have this conversation! lol
"Stephen" (3:42:47 PM): haha my only tie with them is bud... because he tells me all this stuff going on there and THINKS we have some mega-secret cool deal... but i can't WAIT to see his reaction when his ass goes
"Stephen" (3:42:49 PM): lol!
pinkertonantics (3:43:11 PM): hahaha
"Stephen" (3:43:13 PM): i was alligned with bud in a past game, and the only reason we kept him was to be a shield... and it worked, since no one can stand him
pinkertonantics (3:44:23 PM): yeah that's a really smart person to align with actually! if you can put up with his shit long enough .. hahah
"Stephen" (3:47:30 PM): haha yep!
"Stephen" (3:47:49 PM): well, i am gonna shower and stuff
"Stephen" (3:47:57 PM): i'm going to this thing called the wine walk at 2
"Stephen" (3:48:21 PM): like 30-40 bars around town give out samples of all this wine, and its 20 bucks total for the 3 hours
"Stephen" (3:48:31 PM): its my first time so im really excited ^_^
pinkertonantics (3:48:51 PM): haha that sounds amazing
pinkertonantics (3:48:59 PM): have a great time dude!
pinkertonantics (3:49:47 PM): glad we had this conversation talk soon
"Stephen" (3:50:04 PM): same! have a great saturday!

[jordan]

..and here we go again. After a relatively quiet two days we lost again, and the scrambling begins again.

[jordan]

dannggggg
Jordan Gremli
Ashleyaww whats up?
we lost 
Jordan Gremli
11:16 PM
AshleyI know it sucks so friggen bad
Ashleyi hate it
i thought it would at least be closer!
Jordan Gremli
Ashleyme too but no such luck
any early thoughts on who youre leaning towards this time
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im completely lost
Jordan Gremli
again
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haha
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Ashleyno idea maybe clayton or morgan...they were apparently targets 1st round
Ashleywell first tc but i like them both
Ashleyi like everyoe=ne its so hard to pick
yeah i heard those names the first tc too
Jordan Gremli
ive probably talked to clayton the least so far. hes always at challenges but doesnt say too much
Jordan Gremli
AshleyI know thats what everyone so far is saying. they are leaning towards him
ugh i dunno though
Jordan Gremli
oh yah? ive only talked to tom about it quick and he mentioned it as a possibility
Jordan Gremli
AshleySo did erik
Ashleywe still have a few people to talk to anyway
yeah for sure - preliminary thoughts now
Jordan Gremli
Ashleyya its so effing hard to decide cause everyone pitches in
yeah and everyone is friendly and awesome too
Jordan Gremli
if we had a bud who pitched in but was a dick about everything that'd be easy too
Jordan Gremli
11:30 PM
Ashleyi know haha
sidenote, hows the new mic workin out 
Jordan Gremli
Ashleyhaha havent tried it yet hopefully next challenge well go on skype
Ashleyi dont wanna sound like a ghost again and freak everyone out
hahaha
Jordan Gremli
it just sounded like you were on the other side of the room
Jordan Gremli
Ashleywell i always leave my laptop on the ground and the dog always steps all over it so a connection probably came loose
Ashleyok I'm off to bed I'll talk to you later!!
have a good night 
Jordan Gremli
Ashleyyou too

[jordan]

dammit*
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onetz53I know
onetz53
onetz53I hate we're gonna be even with them in a day
i know
Jordan Gremli
they went after the big ticket challenges .. we tried to spread the points around
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onetz53yeah I didn't even know one of those challenges were worth 50 points
onetz53the one Jeffrey got
yeah exactly that was the binary one
Jordan Gremli
onetz53and they killed us on that making words thing
i read that one, went to go check my other two, and then by the time i went back to it jeffrey had done the whole thing already
Jordan Gremli
yeah i saw that happening today and got nervous
Jordan Gremli
onetz53ugh, we should've caught that last night
yeah .. some of us changing our lists today helped but it probably wouldnt have been enough anyway
Jordan Gremli
onetz53but what's done is done I guess
ugh
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for sure. have to figure out who's next now 
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onetz53suck
onetz53do you have any initial thoughts?
well same as last time, that skype group from two challenges ago was pretty sweet
Jordan Gremli
i've probably talked to clayton the least
Jordan Gremli
onetz53same here
onetz53like, he shows up to everything, but I hardly know the guy
yeah, even when he's there for challenges he doesn't participate as much
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onetz53and I think if we keep that Skype group strong our teamwork stays strong
i agree
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onetz53because even though we lost I think we still worked well together
yeah i think so too
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and even though, like we said last time, morgan hasn't been spectacular in challenges it would be tough to vote out that kind of heart
Jordan Gremli
onetz53yeah...I think it's just been bad timing with the past 2 challenges
onetz53same with Erik
onetz53and we def can't stand to lose him
yeah absolutely
Jordan Gremli
11:25 PM
seems like a few others are leaning clayton too
Jordan Gremli
onetz53yeah, it just seems like the least chaotic thing we could do, I think
yeah, seems like it's been on people's minds since last vote
Jordan Gremli
onetz53yeah, I was actually wondering if we should've gotten rid of Clayton last time instead of Jamie
onetz53but oh well
11:31 PM
at least the vote last time kept us unified
Jordan Gremli
maybe this one will too
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onetz53yeah, our unity is key
that core of people we were talking about before is pretty key to that i think
Jordan Gremli
onetz53oh I totally agree
4/20/10
12:20 AM
alrite man im going to bed - talk soon
Jordan Gremli
have a good nite
Jordan Gremli
onetz53ok friend, I'll talk to ya later!
onetz53peace

[jordan]

yoshirocks1820yeah ugh
yoshirocks1820and everyone is voting you
they went after the big ticket challenges
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820tom/Ashley/Clayton so far at least
they are???
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why!?
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820LOL NO
yoshirocks1820i'm kidding
yoshirocks1820sorry 
yoshirocks1820hahaha
jesus dude!
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820im a dick im sorry
yoshirocks1820
hahah
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yoshirocks1820no but like
yoshirocks1820i told you about stephen the other day right?
yoshirocks1820and his thoughts on who we should be aligned with
yeah - i talked to him too the other day
Jordan Gremli
not about a big alliance but he definitely wants to work with the same people we do
Jordan Gremli
have you heard anything in the last 18 minutes? haha
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yoshirocks1820oh yeah. lol sorry
yoshirocks1820Ive been talking to Tom
yoshirocks1820and I pretty much just dumped the whole idea on him
yoshirocks1820mentioned the 6 of us
yoshirocks1820and he said he was totes cool with it
yoshirocks1820
yoshirocks1820sooo we might have an alliance
awesome 
Jordan Gremli
6 as in you/me/stephen/erin/tom and .. morgan? tucker?
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820morgan being the 6th yeah
yoshirocks1820you talk to tucker a lot right
cool
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820where exactly does he stand?
yoshirocks1820i dont know where to stick him
yeah more than the average person i geuss
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i think he's been making a lot of one off deals with people
Jordan Gremli
like me, stephen, maybe tom
Jordan Gremli
i know he likes the "skype group" too though
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thats all ive got on him though
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who are you thinking of going after?
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820im between Clayton, Allan, and Tucker.
well allan's got immunity
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820he does? fucksticks
yeah cause he did the best in the challenge
Jordan Gremli
so wait should i bring this grouping up to tom? or wait
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820im wondering how we should handle it
yoshirocks1820do people think were close yet?
yoshirocks1820lol
ha i dont think so?
Jordan Gremli
i havent talked to anyone about big picture alliances except you
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820i mean all ive done is loosely mentioned you to group plans to stephen and tom
yoshirocks1820lol
just "ive got your back" type things
Jordan Gremli
yeah same here
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820oh okay 
listed you as a "person i like"
Jordan Gremli
haha
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yoshirocks1820haha okay god
yoshirocks1820good
11:16 PM
are ashley/allan still trying to do something else?
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820did someone tell you about that?
yoshirocks1820or did i tell you about that
yoshirocks1820lol
you did
Jordan Gremli
haha
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yoshirocks1820okay
is there an update with that
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820I heard that they were going after Morgan
yoshirocks1820and then Ashley mentioned Morgan to me and that she likes clayton
yoshirocks1820like she was putting feelers out
yoshirocks1820to see if I'd go for it
yoshirocks1820without seemed way anti-morgan
yoshirocks1820but yeah apparently allan/ashley wanted Morgan out
yoshirocks1820plus they wanted that alliance with Tom/Stephen/Erin
yoshirocks1820I REALLY want Allan gone next.
yeah i agree with you
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820he has to go.
yoshirocks1820but bitch got immunity this round
or ashley even
Jordan Gremli
allan pulls the strings though
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820yeah exactly
yoshirocks1820i couldn't see voting ashley and leaving allan
yoshirocks1820that just really scares me
yoshirocks1820i feel like he'd be able to do a lot more damage
yoshirocks1820ashley might even stick with us
yeah and hes got way more friends on the other side
Jordan Gremli
ashleys doing the feelers for me too
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yoshirocks1820yup yup
yoshirocks1820uh huhhhhh lookie there
yoshirocks1820those two are so shady
yoshirocks1820haha
yoshirocks1820yeah so tom seems to really want clayton
yeah i got that feeling too
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yoshirocks1820the only other person i'd consider really is Tucker
yoshirocks1820but I am torn between wanting to vote tucker
ashley is leaning towards clayton too apparently
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820and wanting to be in a tight alliance with him
hahah
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yoshirocks1820Tom is apparently turking ashley towards clayton
yoshirocks1820cause people wanna vote him
whats the determining factor? you played with him before
Jordan Gremli
tucker i mean
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yoshirocks1820and she wont wanna ruffle feathers or have morgan find out
yoshirocks1820Well I dunno, i feel like you're close with him
yoshirocks1820and i consider you my number 1
yoshirocks1820so like a 3 way between us would be cool
yoshirocks1820and i mean tucker and I get along....we have a 1 on 1 deal
yoshirocks1820but on the other hand he's such a sweet talker and I know he probs has those with a lot of people and ties on the other side
yoshirocks1820so it just scares me
yeah i absolutely agree with you
Jordan Gremli
there's just something about the way he deals with people - seems like he could flip at some point
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not that ive gotten anything concrete to support that
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just a feeling
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yoshirocks1820yeah its just a bad gut feeling
honestly i dont think he'd pull anything now though
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820and i mean he did that in fans v faves
yoshirocks1820no me either
did he
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820yeah he was friends with everyone
yeah
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yoshirocks1820he backstabbed people though, quite easily
yoshirocks1820i talked to jamie today
yoshirocks1820well she hit me up
yoshirocks1820and was apparently really shocked at a few people
ha she was not happy
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820one in particular
yoshirocks1820that just straight up lied to her
tucker?
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yoshirocks1820and she wouldnt tell me but i was like....let me guess lol
yoshirocks1820Tucker?
oh haha
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820cause he seemed like the only one that would do that
yoshirocks1820and yeah it was him
yoshirocks1820apparently he was her closest ally
yoshirocks1820and lied to her face about the vote
oh man
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i bet a lot of people think that about him
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820so that sorta confirmed my thoughts a bit
yoshirocks1820yup exactly
yoshirocks1820i mentioned his name to tom
yoshirocks1820and tom was like not for it at all
yoshirocks1820and im just like wtf lol
yoshirocks1820i think he has very 1 on 1 shit going on with everyone
yoshirocks1820but on the same token, could we vote someone like that out/
yoshirocks1820i dont even know
yoshirocks1820i think clayton is the best choice this round for sure
yoshirocks1820and i still want allan next i think
i agree with both of those
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820but i feel like im going to regret keeping tucker around
yoshirocks1820he just seems like a villain to me 
i know what you mean, i definitely think he has those 1on1 deals with everyone and is probably going to be tight with RB in a merge situation
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820something to keep in mind in the future i guess. for now, we praise him and make him our ally
yoshirocks1820yeah definitely with RB
i dont know if something we assume might happen in 3 rounds is worth it to shake up the pot so much this time
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820definitely not now
yeah. maybe soon though
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yoshirocks1820lets vote clayton and win the next challenge
yoshirocks1820
just know i agree with you about him
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820esp. if ashley is close to clayton
yoshirocks1820okay  good
sounds like a plan to me
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is she?
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yoshirocks1820apparently
yoshirocks1820she's trying to save him and vote morgan
yoshirocks1820i mean probs not super close but she was defending him
oh really? shes saying all clayton to me
Jordan Gremli
huh
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yeah she probably wants to break up the tom/morgan thing
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yoshirocks1820really. i think thats cause tom shut her down on morgan
yoshirocks1820and she dont want people knowing about morgan
whatever works
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yeah
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yoshirocks1820(that they want morgan gone)
tom said team unity is key
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and i said that core of skype people is key to that key
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and he agreed
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yoshirocks1820yeah exactly
so yeah he's down
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haha
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yoshirocks1820we keep the tribe together for this, we can win challenges next round hopefully
yoshirocks1820and if not
yoshirocks1820we make our move on allan
yoshirocks1820me-you
yoshirocks1820hopefully stephen/erin
yoshirocks1820morgan will be on for it after they tried to get her out
i'm definitely down with that
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820and then im sure we can get tom or tucker
yoshirocks1820 has gone offline.
yoshirocks1820we only need 5 though
yoshirocks1820maybe we can talk to stephen tonight see what he thinks
yoshirocks1820 is now online.
yeah i didnt get to talk to him last time
Jordan Gremli
here's erin, lets see what she thinks
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820yup yup
11:41 PM
i think she'll go along with whatever people are saying
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820okay cool
11:57 PM
yoshirocks1820kay im outies
yoshirocks1820later jordan
yoshirocks1820gotta work on this essay
yeah im goin to watch Modern Family 
Jordan Gremli
talk more tomorrow - night man!
Jordan Gremli
yoshirocks1820sounds good!

[jordan]

AIM IM with Erin <erinengle>11:35 PM
Erinhey
hii
Jordan Gremli
ugh im mad we lost
Jordan Gremli
ErinI am too!
ErinReally aggrivated about it
i at least thought it would be closer
Jordan Gremli
ErinI did too...
we got a lot of points today!
Jordan Gremli
Erinlike 100!
it was those big 50 point guys that screwed us
Jordan Gremli
ugh
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and now we gotta lose someone else
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ErinThey did!
ErinUGH!
ErinWell I'm not voting you!
thanks  yeah i'm definitely not voting you either
Jordan Gremli
i've only talked to one or two people but clayton's being thrown around so far i think
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you have any early thoughts?
Jordan Gremli
ErinI just heard Clayton.
i've probably talked to him the least out of anyone. he does well in the challenges though!
Jordan Gremli
ErinHe does...
ErinBut he isn't very talkatice.
Erintive
ErinI guess I talk to him a bit...
ErinBut it's kinda more me just talking at him...
yeah i'm the same way
Jordan Gremli
nice kid, i just haven't gotten to know him like i've gotten to know literally everyone else on the tribe
Jordan Gremli
ErinSame here.
ErinI don't know if that's how he plays or if he's just quite and shy.
ErinI hope we win this next challenge!
yeah could be either .. or some mixture of both haha
Jordan Gremli
and yes we really need to stop their momentum now!
Jordan Gremli
ErinI hope the challenge is Wednesday night because I can def be here
yeah same here!
Jordan Gremli
tomorrow's the only night i can't do
Jordan Gremli
ErinI wouldn't think it would be tomororw night.
ErinI hope not!
ErinWe need EVERYONE. I really hope it is Wednesday night.
oh absolutely!
Jordan Gremli
big rebound challenge 
Jordan Gremli
brb
Jordan Gremli
Erinok!
4/20/10
12:19 AM
alright i think im going to bed
Jordan Gremli
will let ya know if i hear anything major different tomorrow 
Jordan Gremli
ErinI will!
ErinSo far nothing different

[jordan]

I don't want to say this in a public forum, but I was a little disappointed by our tribe's performance in this challenge. We got a little cocky. I had to leave for a few minutes in the middle of the challenge (to puke .. haha), and when I got back everyone was just sitting around on the Skype call, saying "we did all we could." There were still a lot of points out there, and we never even did a check to make SURE that all points that were possibly earned were ours. When Erik and I went through the boards the next day we found a lot of points that were just out in the open and it irked me a little bit.
Our strategy was to spread the points around, but we should have went after the big ticket items first, like the Villains did.

Losing this challenge was a tough blow for sure, but I think it's really going to light a fire under our collective asses. We're definitely not going to be cocky next time. IC3 was kind of a fluke victory for the Villains. If it weren't for Juice having no life we could have won that challenge just as easy. But in IC4 they really beat us pretty badly. That's not ok. We're a better, more talented, more united team and have no reason to lose challenges like this. Barring any wild twists, I really see us coming back strong next time. We really have no choice. They've had two easy votes so far and we've had two difficult ones. We need to send them back to TC so that some wedges will start splitting them up. They are getting too much momentum.

[jordan]

All signs point to Clayton right now. This vote is similar to last time in that everyone just kind of agrees randomly on a person, but this time I think everyone is more okay with voting Clayton out. Whereas last vote some people may have had opinions but kept them to themselves for fear of going against the big majority or being perceived as a schemer, I get the feeling that everyone this time actually thinks Clayton should go.

I don't disagree with this choice. I've gotten to know him the least of anyone on this tribe by far, and although he has participated in challenges when he's been there he hasn't really talked or taken a leadership role. Good kid, but if we have to get rid of someone I'd definitely say he's the best choice.

Also that ensures it's not me, which is always nice.
I'd say I'm about 80% sure that the vote is going to go this way tonight. As usual you can never trust anyone, but unless everyone I've talked to it doing a bang-up job of lying to my face everyone is voting Clayton. We'll see if it plays out.

If we lose again, the next vote might get messy. Had an interesting conversation with Erik last night about factions. He wants to go after Allan next time. I have to say I agree with him that the Allan/Ashley thing needs to be broken up, mostly because I'm sure they have lots of friends on the other side. They're probably going to go after Morgan next because she's done the worst in the challenges. And while she hasn't done spectacular in the challenges, I know that Tom/Erik/Stephen/Erin are going to want to try and keep her around. And if I want to find myself in that alliance I think it's in my best interest to just do what they say for now.

Then there's the issue of Tucker. I think he could be my closest ally, and I also think he could be everyone's closest ally. He's told me himself that he's made a bunch of one on one deals with people .. "I've got your back if you've got mine" things, but he's always been a little sketchy when the topic of big-picture alliances come up. I want to be able to count on him but I just get a weird feeling about it, and Erik seems to agree. I also wish I could trust Erik 100% but I just can't because of what happened in Peru. Maybe it's a good thing that I'm not going to have a 100% I Know I Can Trust This Person ally in this game, won't make me seem as dangerous as last time. Still, would be nice.

I guess we'll see where it all progresses. As usual I'm getting ahead of myself. Have to go make sure everyone else on the tribe I haven't talked to yet is voting Clayton tonight.

[jordan]

pinkertonantics (2:30:51 PM): hey Morgan!
"Morgan" (2:31:02 PM): Hey Jordan, I was just about to IM you.
pinkertonantics (2:31:39 PM): Haha nice, how's it going today
pinkertonantics (2:31:43 PM): so bummed we lost again!
"Morgan" (2:33:06 PM): I just saw, it's so sad!
pinkertonantics (2:33:21 PM): Yeah, I thought we'd at least be closer
pinkertonantics (2:33:31 PM): especially after grabbing those points yesterday
"Morgan" (2:33:56 PM): You tried really hard though, so no need to lament about it.
pinkertonantics (2:34:34 PM): yeah we all gave it a really good effort. just came up a little short!
pinkertonantics (2:34:52 PM): not fun having to lose another one though
"Morgan" (2:35:34 PM): I agree, do you have any idea of who?
pinkertonantics (2:37:16 PM): I haven't talked to tooo many people about it yet, but i've heard clayton so far
pinkertonantics (2:37:33 PM): that's actually what i was thinking too. i've talked to him far less than everyone else
pinkertonantics (2:37:59 PM): definitely not a concrete thing yet though
"Morgan" (2:38:05 PM): I was thinking Clayton as well, he was my choice last round too. I never see him around, honestly.
pinkertonantics (2:38:15 PM): Yeah
pinkertonantics (2:38:40 PM): and in the few times i have seen him around he hasn't talked much
"Morgan" (2:39:02 PM): How did he do in the challenge, individualy, do you know?
pinkertonantics (2:40:03 PM): not sure of the score, but i think i only saw him do one of the puzzles
pinkertonantics (2:40:13 PM): dont quote me on that though haha
"Morgan" (2:40:36 PM): LOL *quotes*
"Morgan" (2:41:53 PM): Tom sent me a PM talking about Clayton going.
pinkertonantics (2:42:45 PM): cool .. yeah i talked to tom really briefly about it last night and he seemed all in for the idea
"Morgan" (2:43:15 PM): I wish I had logged in last night again. I always seem to miss when the majority is online.
"Morgan" (2:50:47 PM): I hope the vote is unanimous again to keep the unity.
pinkertonantics (2:51:06 PM): You didn't miss too much last night honestly .. I talked to Tom and Erik and that's pretty much it
pinkertonantics (2:51:28 PM): And yeah me too .. so far everyone that i've talked to has agreed but definitely haven't heard from everyone yet
pinkertonantics (2:51:32 PM): ..or most people, haha
"Morgan" (2:53:14 PM): BRB
"Morgan" (2:57:25 PM): Back.
pinkertonantics (3:05:04 PM): me too now haha
"Morgan" (3:14:30 PM): Hey hon, I'm going to leave, but I'll be back in a few hours to further discuss the vote. Talk to you then! Enjoy work <3.

[jordan]

"Erin" (1:54:26 PM): have you heard anything different about the vote?
pinkertonantics (1:54:44 PM): hey - i've actually heard nothing today at all
pinkertonantics (1:54:45 PM): haha
pinkertonantics (1:54:49 PM): have you?
"Erin" (1:55:13 PM): nope. I haven't heard anything. went I went to bed last night it was still Clayton.
"Erin" (1:55:31 PM): Allan came online and he said the only name he had heard was Clayton.
pinkertonantics (1:55:42 PM): cool .. yeah i haven't talked to stephen or allan yet but erik and tom seem all clayon
"Erin" (1:56:11 PM): I'm at work and it's nap time so I just thought I would get on aim and check.
"Erin" (1:56:21 PM): they seemed all Clayton to me too.
pinkertonantics (1:56:48 PM): yeah i've been on and off at work today and everything seems pretty quiet
pinkertonantics (1:56:59 PM): i have a softball game from 6:30-8 so i'm probably gonna vote before i leave here just in case
"Erin" (1:58:24 PM): well I'm planning on voting Clayton unless something changes. I'm gonna vote after work.
pinkertonantics (1:58:39 PM): cool same here
"Erin" (1:58:45 PM): softball! I haven't played softball in years! I played every summer growing up and through high school.
pinkertonantics (2:02:00 PM): yeah i love it so much - just joined this team in the city and we're only two games in
"Erin" (2:03:29 PM): I would love to find a team!
"Erin" (2:03:45 PM): I haven't played in years. not sure if I could even catch a ball any more!
pinkertonantics (2:04:03 PM): haha thats only half the battle
"Erin" (2:04:05 PM): well I'm gonna run! I need to work on some art pokects for tomorrow!!! ttyl!
pinkertonantics (2:04:13 PM): ok ttyl!

[jordan]

all systems go, it seems...
pinkertonantics (4:12:12 PM): hey man
"Tucker" (4:12:28 PM): hey jo, whats up brother
pinkertonantics (4:12:42 PM): not too much mate just finishing up work in a little bit .. have a softball game tonight
"Tucker" (4:13:13 PM): good stuff I saw what Ash wrote about the other side gloating that it took them four rounds to win as a group.
pinkertonantics (4:13:22 PM): haha yeah i saw your response .. was a good one
pinkertonantics (4:13:30 PM): i just wanted to inspire some villain hate with my response
"Tucker" (4:14:03 PM): you know what makes me laugh, is that when i turn off the laptop i forget about it all and have a life
pinkertonantics (4:14:40 PM): haha same here
pinkertonantics (4:15:05 PM): not sure everyone can say that..
"Tucker" (4:15:25 PM): mhm, and if i felt compelled to make a video about a tribal council vote in an ORG i'd go have sex instead
pinkertonantics (4:16:32 PM): yes or go have a drink, or play a softball game, or whatever
"Tucker" (4:16:43 PM): yes, who you playing against tonight?
pinkertonantics (4:16:57 PM): not sure who they are, but the team's called "Never Been To Third"
"Tucker" (4:17:26 PM): sounds like a god awful team in playing and the bedroom
pinkertonantics (4:17:35 PM): yeah that's what we're hoping haha
"Tucker" (4:17:52 PM): you'll destroy them
pinkertonantics (4:18:41 PM): thanks for your support sir
"Tucker" (4:18:44 PM): i'm applying for a reality show with my sister lol
pinkertonantics (4:18:49 PM): beautiful night in NYC, cant complain
pinkertonantics (4:18:51 PM): oo which one
"Tucker" (4:18:56 PM): Coach Trip
pinkertonantics (4:19:02 PM): that British?
"Tucker" (4:19:05 PM): yep
pinkertonantics (4:19:07 PM): never heard of it
"Tucker" (4:19:25 PM): 14 couples do a coach trip around europe for 30 days
"Tucker" (4:19:34 PM): and the winning team gets 10k
pinkertonantics (4:19:55 PM): like the amazing race kind of but less international?
pinkertonantics (4:20:03 PM): er, less intercontinental
"Tucker" (4:20:09 PM): yeah and we all live on a coach lol
"Tucker" (4:20:11 PM): epicc
pinkertonantics (4:20:13 PM): oh haha
pinkertonantics (4:20:17 PM): thats awesome
"Tucker" (4:20:21 PM): we've just filled the forms out and taking some pictures tomorrow
"Tucker" (4:20:48 PM): it was weird when my sister said she'd enjoy a holiday with "sexy men with big dicks" on her form
pinkertonantics (4:21:12 PM): hahahaha
pinkertonantics (4:21:42 PM): i imagine that must be fairly awkward
"Tucker" (4:22:00 PM): you're not wrong
pinkertonantics (4:23:56 PM): well thats pretty awesome
pinkertonantics (4:23:57 PM): good luck!
"Tucker" (4:24:03 PM): thank you
pinkertonantics (4:24:06 PM): ill find a way to watch coach trip if you get on
"Tucker" (4:24:26 PM): ha i'll be the one drunk off my ass with my sister in tow
pinkertonantics (4:24:45 PM): ha while she's looking for holidays with sexy guys
pinkertonantics (4:24:50 PM): most entertaining team for sure
"Tucker" (4:24:54 PM):
pinkertonantics (4:25:26 PM): hey its alllll a character im sure
"Tucker" (4:25:37 PM): if only sir
"Tucker" (4:25:38 PM): if only
pinkertonantics (4:26:31 PM): she older or younger
"Tucker" (4:26:35 PM): older, 28
pinkertonantics (4:26:51 PM): oh well thats not AS bad then haha
pinkertonantics (4:28:43 PM): so you come to a decision about the voting yet?
"Tucker" (4:28:51 PM): I heard from Tom it's Clayton
pinkertonantics (4:29:03 PM): yeah i heard the same
"Tucker" (4:29:16 PM): Ash knows about it as well, so that's four and Tom said there was a group concensus
pinkertonantics (4:29:33 PM): yeah ive talked to erin about it too and she's down
"Tucker" (4:29:43 PM): So that's over majority.
pinkertonantics (4:30:09 PM): mhm - i don't really disagree with that. i've talked to him the least out of anyone on the tribe so far
"Tucker" (4:30:42 PM): me either. its been like that for me since day one, he's never made the effort to talk to me
"Tucker" (4:31:48 PM): and ive got better things to do then to talk to a brick wall
pinkertonantics (4:32:01 PM): same for me
pinkertonantics (4:32:19 PM): even when he's at challenges and participating he doesnt really say anything
"Tucker" (4:32:28 PM): ah well
pinkertonantics (4:33:00 PM): hope we bounce back
"Tucker" (4:33:30 PM): we will, if not now then at merger.
pinkertonantics (4:33:46 PM): yeah for sure
"Tucker" (4:35:00 PM): keeping positive = awesome
pinkertonantics (4:35:16 PM): definitely i think that's all we need. we're obviously all still pretty unified
pinkertonantics (4:35:54 PM): so what are you up to this eve
"Tucker" (4:36:41 PM): i just got back home from my sisters and i'm flicking through some songs. my girlfriend found one for me to listen too because it reminds her of me, even though its sung by a man and its about a girl
"Tucker" (4:36:50 PM): but i had to replace "girl" with "guy"
pinkertonantics (4:37:19 PM): hahah
pinkertonantics (4:37:21 PM): what was the song
"Tucker" (4:37:45 PM): Joshua Raden - I'd rather be with you
pinkertonantics (4:38:22 PM): presh
pinkertonantics (4:38:36 PM): haha
"Tucker" (4:38:39 PM): mhm
"Tucker" (4:38:56 PM): i dont wanna go for a typical song though
pinkertonantics (4:39:19 PM): you mean to send back to her?
"Tucker" (4:39:23 PM): yeah
pinkertonantics (4:40:05 PM): "blah blah blah" by ke$ha
"Tucker" (4:40:10 PM): LOL
pinkertonantics (4:40:13 PM): jsut tell her to switch "dick" with "vagina"
"Tucker" (4:40:14 PM): its gotta be somewhat soppy
pinkertonantics (4:40:14 PM):
"Tucker" (4:41:52 PM): i could use Iris but it's too typical
pinkertonantics (4:42:12 PM): yeahh thats been done a lot
pinkertonantics (4:42:32 PM): that and "angel of mine" were the couples dance songs in 7th grade here .. haha
"Tucker" (4:42:38 PM): aw
"Tucker" (4:42:40 PM): gross
pinkertonantics (4:42:44 PM): yeah
pinkertonantics (4:43:29 PM): has Michael Buble caught on over there yet
"Tucker" (4:43:32 PM): yep
"Tucker" (4:43:37 PM): just havent met you yet
pinkertonantics (4:44:14 PM): pretty soppy. although i guess it's about a girl who doesnt exist huh
"Tucker" (4:44:36 PM): hmmm and mine does
"Tucker" (4:44:38 PM):
"Tucker" (4:44:40 PM): fuck
pinkertonantics (4:46:14 PM): ha the first time ever that's a problem
"Tucker" (4:46:33 PM):
pinkertonantics (4:48:09 PM): ugh now i cant get blah blah blah out of my head
pinkertonantics (4:48:13 PM): this song is so bad
"Tucker" (4:48:20 PM): 3oh3 ruined it
"Tucker" (4:48:23 PM): that is all
pinkertonantics (4:48:32 PM): agreed
"Tucker" (4:48:46 PM): brb!
"Tucker" (4:49:16 PM): www.youtube.com/watch?v=886AQqcM8Tk
"Tucker" (4:49:21 PM): you'll enjoy this song
pinkertonantics (4:49:55 PM): this reminds of keane
"Tucker" (4:50:06 PM): they're better
pinkertonantics (4:50:32 PM): yeah i like this
pinkertonantics (5:08:56 PM): alright dude im outta here .. talk to ya soon
"Tucker" (5:09:11 PM): have fun, i'm trying to still find that one song
"Tucker" (5:09:16 PM): kick some ass
pinkertonantics (5:09:28 PM): hmm ill rack my brain while im out on the field
"Tucker" (5:09:33 PM): cheers mate